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Attacker / Defender Man Sky Earth Star Beast
Man 1.0x 1.1x 0.9x 1.0x 1.0x
Sky 0.9x 1.0x 1.1x 1.0x 1.0x
Earth 1.1x 0.9x 1.0x 1.0x 1.0x
Star 1.0x 1.0x 1.0x 1.0x 1.1x
Beast 1.0x 1.0x 1.0x 1.1x 0.0x

name servants
Man Artoria Pendragon (Alter) (Saber), Nero Claudius, Nero Claudius (Bride), Gaius Julius Caesar, Altera, Gilles de Rais (Saber), Chevalier d'Eon, Okita Souji, Ryougi Shiki (Saber), Emiya, Robin Hood, Billy the Kid, Oda Nobunaga, Elizabeth Bathory, Musashibou Benkei, Leonidas I, Hector, Li Shuwen (Lancer), Saint George, Edward Teach, Anne Bonny & Mary Read, Boudica, Ushiwakamaru, Alexander, Marie Antoinette, Saint Martha, Arturia Pendragon (Santa Alter), Gilles de Rais (Caster), Nursery Rhyme, Hans Christian Andersen, William Shakespeare, Van Hohenheim - Paracelsus, Charles Babbage, Geronimo, Zhuge Kongming (El-Melloi II), Helena Blavatsky, Thomas Edison, Elizabeth Bathory (Halloween), Sasaki Koujirou, Hassan of the Cursed Arm, Jing Ke, Charles-Henri Sanson, Mata Hari, Ryougi Shiki (Assassin), Lu Bu Feng Xian, Spartacus, Sakata Kintoki, Caligula, Darius III, Nightingale, Eirik Bloodaxe, Amakusa Shirou, Jeanne d'Arc (Alter), Count of Monte Cristo, Silver Chibi Nobu, Golden Chibi Nobu, Silver Deka Nobu, Golden Deka Nobu, Ancient Soldier, Medieval Soldier, Modern Soldier, Pict, Amazon, Mechanized Infantry, Helter Skelter, Celt Soldier, Druid, Skeleton Soldier, Chibi Nobu, Deka Nobu, Zombie Office Worker, Zombie Gangs, Zombie Cop, Schoolgirl Ghost, Fujou Kirie Ghost
Sky Rama, Gilgamesh, David, Orion, Euryale, Arjuna, Ko-Gil, Cu Chulainn (Lancer), Karna, Cu Chulainn (Prototype), Fionn mac Cumhaill, Brynhildr, Artoria Pendragon (Alter) (Lancer), Tamamo no Mae, Cu Chulainn (Caster), Stheno, Heracles, Solomon, Demon, Automata, Golem, Spellbook, Money Bonus, Experience Bonus, Homunculus, Demon God, Genie Barbados, Chapter 4 Final Boss, Genie Halphas, Ghost, Christmas Hand, Snowman, Huge Boss Ghost, Colossal Boss Ghost, Huge Black Ghost Boss
Earth Artoria Pendragon, Artoria Pendragon (Lily), Siegfried, Mordred, Fergus mac Róich, Atalante, Arash, Diarmuid Ua Duibhne, Medusa, Astolfo, Queen Medb, Medea, Mephistopheles, Medea (Lily), Jack the Ripper, Henry Jekyll & Hyde (Assassin), Henry Jekyll & Hyde (Berserker), Phantom of the Opera, Carmilla, Lancelot, Frankenstein, Vlad III, Beowulf, Asterios, Kiyohime, Tamamo Cat, Cu Chulainn (Alter), Matthew Kyrielite, Matthew Kyrielite, Great Dragon, Wyvern Dread, Wyvern Evil, Fafnir, Elder Dragon, Thousand Dragon, Dragon Tooth Soldier, Wyvern, Dragon, Lamia, Centaur, Chimera, Werewolf, Werejaguar, Goblin, Spriggan, Bicorn, Gazer, Soul Eater, Reindeer Man
Star Nikola Tesla, Romulus, Scathach, Francis Drake, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Mysterious Heroine X, Jeanne d'Arc, Mysterious Heroine Z

Updated March 30th, 2016 at 08:42 PM by Kyte

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  1. Kyte's Avatar
    06:53] <Kyte> http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3...e-Relationship // there's a secondary damage triangle
    [06:53] <Kyte> it's p small
    [06:54] <Kyte> but I can't tell wtf it represents
    [06:54] <deadfish> it might be that thing about there being different kinds of heroic spirits
    [06:54] <deadfish> like man, earth, heaven, stars, and something else
    [06:54] <Kyte> hm
    [06:54] <Kyte> yeah I guess
    [06:55] <deadfish> then again there's only four of them
    [06:55] <Kyte> five
    [06:55] <Kyte> one's unused
    [06:55] <deadfish> oh?
    [06:55] <deadfish> i guess that's it then
    [06:55] <Kyte> ...
    [06:55] <Fel> literally what difference is there between the different kinds of HSs?
    [06:55] <Kyte> 10% damage
    [06:55] <deadfish> heroic spirits that didn't really have any special powers when they were alive
    [06:56] <deadfish> but they were important people in history
    [06:56] <Kyte> how did it go?
    [06:56] <deadfish> like the writers
    [06:56] <deadfish> and so on
    [06:56] <Kyte> man => historical, earth => myth, heaven => skipped over, stars => hope?
    [06:56] <deadfish> yeah, something like that
    [06:56] <Kyte> let's see
    [06:56] <Kyte> hm
    [06:57] <Kyte> it does kinda fit...
    [06:57] <Fallacy> heaven => (chosen by the gods?)
    [06:58] <Kyte> the groups go 1 > 3 > 2 > 1
    [06:58] <Kyte> so man > heaven > earth > man
    [06:58] <Kyte> and star is outside the triangle
    [06:58] <Kyte> but star and 5th are extra power against each other
    [06:58] <Kyte> yeah
    [06:58] <Kyte> it sounds like it fits
    [06:58] <Kyte> jesus christ
    [06:58] <Kyte> they actually modeled that goddamn lore?
    [06:59] <Kyte> I'm like wut
    [06:59] <deadfish> it was treated like an affinity thing in the game iirc
  2. Strife ❤️'s Avatar
    They have modelled an insane amount of stuff for a basic mobage.
  3. solarchon's Avatar
    Probably this:
    SvtAttri
    [
    HUMAN = 1,
    SKY = 2,
    GROUND = 3,
    STAR = 4,
    BEAST = 5,
    VOID = 10
    ]
    Updated August 22nd, 2015 at 09:11 AM by solarchon
  4. Elthanes's Avatar
    I don't understand the distinction between Earth and Heaven

    Also why isn't Mozart in category 1?
    Updated August 22nd, 2015 at 11:11 AM by Elthanes
  5. gwonbush's Avatar
    Apparently, all the Heaven Servants have Divinity. In fact, the only Servants with Divinity that aren't Heaven seems to be Medusa, who has an E- Divinity in the Earth category and Alexander with an E rank Divinity in the Human category.
  6. yokushi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Elthanes
    I don't understand the distinction between Earth and Heaven

    Also why isn't Mozart in category 1?
    Maybe being arguably the best composer of all time and one of the most known examples of human brilliancy made him go from the Human to the Star category.
  7. Elthanes's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by gwonbush
    Apparently, all the Heaven Servants have Divinity. In fact, the only Servants with Divinity that aren't Heaven seems to be Medusa, who has an E- Divinity in the Earth category and Alexander with an E rank Divinity in the Human category.
    There's also Tamamo
    Nevermind I just noticed she doesn't have it
    Updated August 22nd, 2015 at 11:56 AM by Elthanes
  8. GundamFSN's Avatar
    Dang, DelightWorks is pretty fearsome.
  9. Kyte's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by solarchon
    Probably this:
    SvtAttri
    [
    HUMAN = 1,
    SKY = 2,
    GROUND = 3,
    STAR = 4,
    BEAST = 5,
    VOID = 10
    ]
    Quite so, thanks for pointing it out.
  10. Kotonoha's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by solarchon
    Probably this:
    SvtAttri
    [
    HUMAN = 1,
    SKY = 2,
    GROUND = 3,
    STAR = 4,
    BEAST = 5,
    VOID = 10
    ]
    Did you translate it or was it in English in the code? Because if the latter now we can stop calling the second one Heaven, yaaay
  11. Kyte's Avatar
    That's from the code.

    But mind you, DW's grasp of english (particularly translated Nasu) looks fairly shaky.
    NPs are called Treasure Device in most code and data (not all, though). I wouldn't be surprised if they're dictionary-translating the stuff for the sake of avoiding having to code in japanese (which can lead to Super Fun debugging).

    Also: So. many. typos.
    Updated August 22nd, 2015 at 01:34 PM by Kyte
  12. You's Avatar
    Mozart being Star is weird cos in EMIYA's interlude:
    @エミヤ
    一概に英霊と言うが、大きく四つに分類される。[r]それが『人』『地』『天』、そして『星』だ。
    @エミヤ
    『人』のカテゴリは西暦以後、人類に貢献した偉人が[r]死後に英雄視され、共通認識となったものを指す。
    @エミヤ
    本当に生前から超人だった、という例もあるが、[r]基本的には死後に大衆によって神格化された英霊だ。
    @エミヤ
    アンデルセンやシェイクスピア、[r]アマデウス、ナイチンゲール女史などがあげられる。
    EMIYA says he's Human.
  13. Kyte's Avatar
    Oh noooo Emiya's wrong if our designated exposition dump character is wrong then who we can trust.

    (But honestly I dunno)
  14. You's Avatar
    we trust you, kyte.
  15. Aedra's Avatar
    It is also mentioned that Mozart is categorized as human in TM wiki

    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Heroic_Spirit

    Though, idk the origin of that info.
  16. Imperial's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aedra
    It is also mentioned that Mozart is categorized as human in TM wiki

    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Heroic_Spirit

    Though, idk the origin of that info.
    The wiki is wrong?

    Who ever could have predicted this?
  17. Mcjon01's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aedra
    It is also mentioned that Mozart is categorized as human in TM wiki

    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Heroic_Spirit

    Though, idk the origin of that info.
    Like, they were just talking about it right before you posted.
  18. Aedra's Avatar
    Oh just notice, the wiki editor also update this from the Emiya's interlude..

    How dumb of me
  19. JetKinen's Avatar
    Roma is Hope
  20. Kyte's Avatar
    I'd say it's good to keep game concerns and lore concerns separate. Or at least mention that even if Emiya says he's Human the game thinks he's Star.
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