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It feels like everyone's going on about No Man's Sky over the past few days; about how spectacular/ly disappointing it is, or what moderately interesting thing they found while exploring a planet, or how they got themselves killed in an embarrassing way.

However, I've been on an entirely different sci-fi binge. I'll give you a hint about what it is: Excellent games, but poor sales, and lots of purist fans who are up in arms over the last two titles. Also, it's in the title.

Metroid has seen a lot of crap from its supposed fanbase, at least if the several Metroid fans I know offline are any indication. Online is a different story, but if they can't accept even one thing about Other M of Federation Force, they can't call themselves fans because they're denying parts of the series.
I'll admit, there are exceptions to this rule. Just for one example: Shakugan no Shana Season 3. Gawd that was a disappointment.
Getting back to the Metroid fanbase though…

Fortunately, at least in my opinion, the fans who didn't like Other M seem to be grudgingly coming to accept it as part of the Metroid mythos.
My nonsensical rant of the day. Unnecesary words:
Those who hated it with a passion though… well, their rage has long since driven them insane, and they now stalk the online forums searching for any posts about Other M that don't condemn it to destruction and everyone involved in making it to a gruesome demise. And upon seeing something nonviolent about their craven nemesis, they immediately attempt to destroy that website by creating thirty troll accounts from different computers and ruining everything for everyone. And though you may know me to revel in my own absurdity, I actually knew a guy who did exactly that. We never got along. He was almost as annoying in person as he was online, that is to say, being around him was like trying to get thirty assholes to shut the hell up.

Federation Force, I agree isn't good, but at least the planets are interesting, and you can butcher reams of Space Pirates. And I also accept it as part of the overall story. Despite it clearly being a kid's game.

However, I'm not on a Metroid bender because of Metroid Prime Federation Force, no sir. I'm at that party over a different Metroid game that came out a few weeks ago. Some of you may know what I'm talking about:
After years and years of development, AM2R is finally out! (and has of course been shut down by Nintendo, but the game can still be found on the net)

For those who don't know, AM2R stands for "Another Metroid 2 Remake." But it is not just another Metroid 2 remake: This game is the real deal. It's pretty much Metroid 2 with Zero-Mission graphics and a few surprises added here and there.

I've been following that project since I was in high school. It's kind of surreal to know that it's finished, to say nothing of having actually played and beaten it. Which brings me to my second topic.

It's a sad fact of life that all North American Doujin projects are doomed to be shut down. I mean, there are good reasons for this, but some of the fangames we've (see: I've) seen had a lot of potential:

The Legend of Zelda: The Shadowgazer would have been, without question, the best fangame ever made, just on account of it being not just a good game, but a good Zelda game. The creator posted a lot of his plans for the title online: A beautiful incarnation of Hyrule, Minish Cap graphics… there was even going to be a game mechanic in which there were extra dungeons found inside people's dreams, with nightmares as the dungeon bosses. I am so sad that it's a dead project. It looked like so much fun…

Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes is another fangame, actually just a very big ROM hack of the original SNES game, that faced a similar fate. Fortunately it was 98.9% complete when the developers received their cease and desist notice, and someone managed to smuggle the game onto the Internet, where it just gets passed around through various download sites, much like another completed fangame, Pokémon Uranium, which I think was also finished recently. If you haven't checked out Crimson Echoes, as per the rules of this site, I cannot tell you where to find it, but if you don't want to spend your time looking for it, there's a playthrough on YouTube.
It. Is. Spectacular.

Square Enix is actually very possessive of their property (not that they shouldn't be, but if something's finished, and nobody's making money off of it, why not claim it instead of destroying it? That said. All traces of Final Fantasy VII: Dark Cloud seem to have vanished from the Internet. I'm a little surprised they haven't even banned Final Fantasy etc. fanfiction. Although, I haven't done any research for this post, so it's possible they've tried. And with Kingdom Hearts being the second highest producer of fan-written disasticles, on ff.net's Games section, I imagine many people would get very upset if that happened

So, my question of the day is, does anyone else know of any interesting fangames out there?

* Note: I already know someone is going to say Battle Moon Wars…

Updated August 28th, 2016 at 03:07 PM by Draconic

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  1. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    Those who hated it with a passion though… well, their rage has long since driven them insane, and they now stalk the online forums searching for any posts about Other M that don't condemn it to destruction and everyone involved in making it to a gruesome demise. And upon seeing something nonviolent about their craven nemesis, they immediately attempt to destroy that website by creating thirty troll accounts from different computers and ruining everything for everyone. And though you may know me to revel in my own absurdity, I actually knew a guy who did exactly that. We never got along. He was almost as annoying in person as he was online, that is to say, being around him was like trying to get thirty assholes to shut the hell up.
    You seem to have a thing for turning the opinions of anybody who disagrees with you into a strawman argument
  2. Xamusel's Avatar
    *ahem* I'm working on a fangame... or two... or more. Not sure when any of them will be released, mind you, but still.
  3. Draconic's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by GayBeamu
    You seem to have a thing for turning the opinions of anybody who disagrees with you into a strawman argument
    Aww… that's really all you got out of this? That was me being a goof, not an angry maniac (though I admit to being one every Thursday at exactly 2:15 pm). But it was a joke, I swear
    My rants are usually nonsense, aren't they? At least my more recent ones. I once went on for twenty minutes about a cow thinking it was a helicopter. I really had no idea where I was going with that, but I am an attention-whore.

    And the unwitting landlord to a raccoon. That part's true, totally serious. It climbed under the roof of my house; we forced it out, and blocked the way it came in, and then it tore off another part of the roof and has constantly scratching at the walls in my bedroom ever since. It's kinda like being haunted… by a small furry animal.

    Actually, that's exactly what it is.

    Also, you're attempting to make fangames, Xamusel? Ambitious. Do you have a few people working with you?
    Oh, right, what series?
  4. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    but I am an attention-whore.
    yes this is the problem you see

    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    And the unwitting landlord to a raccoon. That part's true, totally serious. It climbed under the roof of my house; we forced it out, and blocked the way it came in, and then it tore off another part of the roof and has constantly scratching at the walls in my bedroom ever since. It's kinda like being haunted… by a small furry animal.
    this reads like the ravings of a madman
  5. Draconic's Avatar
    It should. I am a madman, but with less psychosis, and more kinda feeling clued out all the time.
  6. just Beamu's Avatar
    less a madman and more attention wanting
  7. Xamusel's Avatar
    At present? I'm creating them on my own in RPG Maker MV. As for the series' used... well, one of them is a retelling of the entirety of Kingdom Hearts, another is a retelling of a fanfic that I have a hand in by the FFN user 117Jorn called Across the Galaxy (that's the fanfic's name)... and so on and so forth.

    Anyway, I'm looking into ways to change the gameplay mechanics, even going as far as trying to mess with what stats are available to the player to see. So far... no dice.
  8. Draconic's Avatar
    A retelling of all of Kingdom Hearts?! That sounds dreadfully difficult. You sure you don't want to try something like the journeys of Xehanort as a young man? Or Kairi's Keyblade training? Those would likely be easier. And you wouldn't have to make different stats.

    That said, you'd need to make up original stories for them, and you'd need to have Axel/Lea around for at least half of one of them. Though that's a good thing.

    Also, GayBeamu, to be fair, I actually am having a pest problem, so show some class (I know, being a clown, I'm not exactly the most qualified person to say this, but you know what I mean). Besides, you took the one thing entitled 'nonsense' and took that as the only important thing here.

    I'll admit though, a raccoon in the walls isn't nearly as bad as a tropical storm, and I hope the rain stops sooner rather than later.
    Updated August 28th, 2016 at 09:04 PM by Draconic
  9. Xamusel's Avatar
    I'm 100% sure that I aim to retell all of Kingdom Hearts... up to the end of 3, that is. I mean, it'd be a fun challenge to completely remake the whole thing in RPG Maker MV. Besides which, I would have to do some extra studying on the topic of Xehanort to get an idea as to what he was like as a younger person (should I go with your idea), so... no dice on that.

    Anyway, I'd be inclined to take on whatever help I can get, at least in the art and sounds departments. Do you know anyone who does 2D art for RPG Maker MV that can recreate the characters of Kingdom Hearts?

    ...oh, wait, maybe I should look on dA.
  10. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    Also, GayBeamu, to be fair, I actually am having a pest problem, so show some class (I know, being a clown, I'm not exactly the most qualified person to say this, but you know what I mean). Besides, you took the one thing entitled 'nonsense' and took that as the only important thing here.
    Also roleplaying as a clown isn't actually entertaining
  11. SeiKeo's Avatar
    Those who hated it with a passion though… well, their rage has long since driven them insane, and they now stalk the online forums searching for any posts about Other M that don't condemn it to destruction and everyone involved in making it to a gruesome demise. And upon seeing something nonviolent about their craven nemesis, they immediately attempt to destroy that website by creating thirty troll accounts from different computers and ruining everything for everyone. And though you may know me to revel in my own absurdity, I actually knew a guy who did exactly that. We never got along. He was almost as annoying in person as he was online, that is to say, being around him was like trying to get thirty assholes to shut the hell up.


    wow, if that's true, that's like, really, just so fucked up man
  12. Draconic's Avatar
    The people who really hated Other M… really hated Other M. It wasn't nearly as bad as my exaggeration there, but it was still incredibly unpleasant to listen to. Kinda like… actually, wait, no, exactly like hearing a fan of a certain franchise ranting about one aspect of that franchise being some sort of personal attack against the fan community, like the creators were somehow indebted to the fans and had refused to pay up. Which is of course, ridiculous, and mind-bogglingly selfish. Other M wasn't up to the standards of the previous Metroid games, so the fans tore it apart, making it out to be much worse than it actually was out of self-righteous resentment.

    for Xehanort as a young man, watch Dream Drop Distance. That representation of him isn't entirely accurate, as he wasn't fascinated by darkness at that point. He's also a native of Destiny Islands; the kid Riku talks about at the beginning of the first game, the one who left the islands for good, was him.
    there's also going to be some more info on him in 2.8 (wait until they announce 2.9…) and the Xehanort Reports in Birth By Sleep.

    And GayBeamu: Why on earth do you think that I'm roleplaying?! What you've just implied is that not only am I an attention seeker, but that I've specifically tailored my entire personality to that end, because what you're criticizing me for, is my actual personality! So, congratulations GayBeamu for not being socially awkward. I am so happy for you. And yes, that is actual anger.
    Updated August 28th, 2016 at 09:52 PM by Draconic
  13. Xamusel's Avatar
    Draconic, perhaps you should focus on other things right now? Like, for instance... what I mentioned about my planned fangame?
  14. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    Why on earth do you think that I'm roleplaying?! What you've just implied is that not only am I an attention seeker, but that I've specifically tailored my entire personality to that end, because what you're criticizing me for, is my actual personality! So, congratulations GayBeamu for not being socially awkward. I am so happy for you. And yes, that is actual anger.
    I'm still hoping you're a sockpuppet but that hope is fading slowly and leading me to assume this is actually you in which case unfortunate
  15. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by @Keo
    wow, if that's true, that's like, really, just so fucked up man
    same fam
  16. Draconic's Avatar
    Yes, very unfortunate for you that I'm actually human. So I'm so sorry that my very existence somehow inconveniences you. Shall I cut my own throat, as to not cause you any more problems by being a human? But you can take solace in the fact that I'm in Canada, and you'll never have to suffer the lethal agony of meeting me in person. Why are you being such a hyena to me? Seriously, it's like one vicious comment after another. Have I done anything to you besides fail to be funny? Have I hurt you in some way? If I have, then great, because that at least justifies this pointless fight you've decided to pick with me.

    Are you through insulting me? Or do you still want to go another round? I can pull out all the stops and start using the filthy vocabulary that I normally reserve for my annoying fanfiction OCs.
  17. Draconic's Avatar
    Well, she logged out, so I guess that's a yes. Maybe I can actually hold a dialogue with people now.
  18. SeiKeo's Avatar
    hey dude let me just pull you aside for a sec and share with you some important 'dude info' ​not a girl
  19. just Beamu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconic
    Well, she logged out, so I guess that's a yes. Maybe I can actually hold a dialogue with people now.
    No I'm just in invisible mode. I have been for months so I know you must have seen that on the previous comments.

    also lol calm down
  20. Xamusel's Avatar
    ...good grief. Perhaps I should express my thoughts in a separate blog post. The drama here... this is getting ridiculous!

    Also, when I say "express my thoughts", I mean on what I was going to say about fan games I'm working on. Nothing else.
    Updated August 28th, 2016 at 10:37 PM by Xamusel
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