Sorry Ranma, but you're really deluding yourself if you believe for even one moment that you'll get us to believe you about this Ki business. Putting aside whether or not it's real, the fact remains that it's accepted in most of the world as bullshit, debunked by several scientific studies and with absolutely no publicly shown proof of its existence. As rational people, we make decisions with the information we have at hand, and that information is telling us that the likelihood of you being right about Ki is the same as that of God deciding to put fake dinosaur fossils in the earth to screw with us. Not that I'm saying you're wrong. On the contrary, I hope you're right because the idea of such a thing being true is awesome. But with the information I possess, as a logical and rational person, I have no choice but to regard what you're saying as the ravings of a guy who never grew out of his 8th grader syndrome. Now I'll acknowledge that it's possible you possess information that we don't, and that you really have manifested and seen your ki. Hell, there might even be secret societies out there dedicated to controlling their ki and performing superhuman feats with it. But that doesn't matter, because if you can't prove it to us, we'll go with what's publicly accepted and within the scope of our minds. So basically, if you're right, you get to say 'I told you so', but until then the world won't acknowledge what you've said as truth no matter what you do, and you'll likely be belittled and insulted for your beliefs until you prove them. That's just how it is. Nothing personal.
Um so what I think I got so far is that what you believe is ki manipulation is not the stuff you read or watch in fantasy things. And is it really true you believe you can manifest UBW?? It just seems that the philosophy you're subscribing to is meditation except more visually active (or delusional). I mean I can agree with Spinach that if this isn't something that's taking too much of your time and resources. I mean shit I bet all of the forum members enjoy fiction that has paranormal or mystical elements just that it's not reality.
Anyway let me know when you win the prize and I'll give you my IRL contact info. I'd be really interested in learning from you.
You can play chess with a pigeon but no matter how well you play he'll just knock over your pieces and shit all over your nice chessboard. The moral of the story is to use cheapo 10 dollar sets instead.
I honestly can't tell whether or not you realize that Ivan's argument is that you're a loon, and there's no sense in arguing with loons.
I will believe you for $200,000 USD. Wait, hear me out! The James Randi Educational Foundation has this prize: At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. So, you go and prove your powers, walk out of there with a hot million, and split it 80:20 with me for referring you to this great opportunity.
15 years from now, you'll discover you really cannot manifest UBW, look back all those years and go: "Shit, this is what I wasted so much of my life for?". See, your viewpoint is wrong, because it's been debunked by multiple viewpoints, using repeatable, provable experiments that get peer-reviewed as to eliminate personal bias. By people who have never tried the methods for manipulating it, and all are insisting it MUST be because I'm deluding myself. I've spent years working on manifestation, and I know I'll continue spending years on it. Time and effort means I'm actually doing work, and using the scientific process to test what I can and cannot do, rather than shouting to the world bullshit like all the moronic trolls that joined those forums claimed. Which pretty much amounted to as follows: "Durr! Look at me! I CAN DO STUFF OUT OF DRAGONBALL Z! I CAN DO STUFF OUT OF ANIME! DURR!" And thus why I hated, and continue to hate the idiots and retards that ruined a good community for everyone else. If you want to doubt me? Go ahead. It's no skin off my back. I honestly don't care. But... I DID think this community was far more understanding then it actually is. And it rather saddens me that a lot of people can't respect other people's beliefs and HAVE to insist that I've been deluding myself for 14 years instead of... you know... trying out one of the exercises I mentioned, themselves? Experimenting and seeing if it worked? *sighs* Ivan said it best, though, earlier. I'm telling you, reality doesn't need someone's belief or denial for it to exist and function. If it is raining and even if you don't believe that it isn't, that will not change the fact that it is raining. You could go out of the house, get wet from the rain and still deny that it is raining or believe that it is not raining, but that will not change the fact that it is raining and your clothes got wet from standing in the rain. If I tell you guys that rain exists, and you all think that it doesn't exist, does that make me right? Or wrong? Rant over, take this as you will. You're going to insist I'm delusional again, though, I already know. *shrugs*
Originally Posted by Kyte Problem's that other people follow him. I highly doubt that he's forcing them to participate, and if they're enjoying it then who cares? Let other people have their fun.
Originally Posted by Kyte 15 years from now, you'll discover you really cannot manifest UBW, look back all those years and go: "Shit, this is what I wasted so much of my life for?". See, your viewpoint is wrong, because it's been debunked by multiple viewpoints, using repeatable, provable experiments that get peer-reviewed as to eliminate personal bias. This is what I'm basically saying. Even if we tell him to wake up or not, he wouldn't wake up until he decides to do so. Besides, no one can fight reality that easily. One's belief may not be compatible with reality, but that doesn't mean reality will not go on, because it doesn't care about someone's beliefs. If it hits someone, it will hit someone. If that someone doesn't want help, then let him go, reality will do it's job.
Problem's that other people follow him.
But is he really investing so much time in this that it's even a significant "wasted" amount of time? Likewise, if he had fun with it is it really wasted? I mean, don't get me wrong, this ki stuff is wiggidy wiggidy whack, but nobody can tell him how he should spend his time(unless he's spending his time raping young girls and someone is telling him to stop).
Originally Posted by RanmaBushiko Also, thanks Ivan, for being a voice of reason here. Just because someone has a viewpoint, doesn't mean it's correct. I've been studying Ki for 14 years now, and I believe it to be real. If you want to deny that Ki exists, fine by me, but people shouldn't insult other people in the process. 15 years from now, you'll discover you really cannot manifest UBW, look back all those years and go: "Shit, this is what I wasted so much of my life for?". See, your viewpoint is wrong, because it's been debunked by multiple viewpoints, using repeatable, provable experiments that get peer-reviewed as to eliminate personal bias.
Originally Posted by Seika OK, so is Whiny Useless McSlacker over there or Self-Deluded Science Failure over here worse? Voting begins now. Hey! Who're you callin' Mc, buddy!? Watch your mouth!
I do a lot of odd jobs, and pay about 500 dollars a month for room and board where I stay at. Leaves me with a bit of money each month, most of which I dump straight into my savings. And manifesting Ki into currency? Lol... sarcasm is your friend. I'm sure a lot of morons believed that to be possible, back when I was younger, too. Probably thought along the lines of this: Durr, I MAKE MONEY OUT OF NOTHING! DURR! ME SMART! ME MAKE RICHES FROM NOTHING! Durrr... Why noone but me see money I make? Durrr... and why money translucent? Durr! WHY IT NO WORK?! ME SMASH MONEY NOW! Durr... money faded into nothing? Durr... me try again! Repeat until retard figured it out. Seriously, though? I'd think you all would have at least be understanding of beliefs and points of view. Also, thanks Ivan, for being a voice of reason here. Just because someone has a viewpoint, doesn't mean it's correct. I've been studying Ki for 14 years now, and I believe it to be real. If you want to deny that Ki exists, fine by me, but people shouldn't insult other people in the process.
Originally Posted by I3uster You're still young enough to turn your life around. You can escape this. Fight! Everybody can be strong if they only have the will to do it. It's easy to flee from reality with delusions, but facing it is far more rewarding. I am sure you can do it! Stop telling him this, it's sounding like a cheap advice from a shady "motivational speaker". Everyone knows this already. I'm telling you, reality doesn't need someone's belief or denial for it to exist and function. If it is raining and even if you don't believe that it isn't, that will not change the fact that it is raining. You could go out of the house, get wet from the rain and still deny that it is raining or believe that it is not raining, but that will not change the fact that it is raining and your clothes got wet from standing in the rain. Because no matter how someone will actively deny, disbelieve or reject reality, it will hit us and we live in it. So telling people that their beliefs are wrong is useless because physically sensing and psychologically believing is very different. It might only make his belief stronger because of "argumentum ad martyrdom" and he can be the only one who can change his own beliefs, not us.
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OK, so is Whiny Useless McSlacker over there or Self-Deluded Science Failure over here worse? Voting begins now.
When I was considering majoring in physics, about 12 years ago, I considered the theories that would allow life energy to manifest in the visible light spectrum. Then I realized I was a fucking chuuni. Also, my employer is an acupuncturist and I've seen her work, and I'm pretty sure your stuff is crazy.
Originally Posted by Kyokushi What do you do for a living? Isn't it obvious? Materialize ki into currency.
What do you do for a living?
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