Originally Posted by Mike1984 Yeah, and it's full of asshole trolls.... Hey, that's rude. Originally Posted by LeopardBear Yeah but /a/ has bad taste. Still better than BL. I went there.
Par for the course.
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That's not "keeping order", that's banning trolls for being assholes. The two are different. Order does not stop trolling, banning assholes like CV stops trolling.... "Keeping order" can just as easily be used as an excuse for banning people who aren't trolls, and many forums deal with trolling by banning the victim and not the troll, especially if it's subtle.
Send Crying_Vegeta a PM and see if he responds.
Yeah, "keeping order" does not in any way prevent trolling.
It's full of trolls because there are no mods around who care about keeping order. ...Like there are here.
Yeah, and it's full of asshole trolls....
Yeah but /a/ has bad taste.
On the other hand, places like /a/ are moderated far less than BL, and people can freely discuss TM all they want there...
Originally Posted by Kyte Nobody joins a forum because they like the rules, but they agree to follow the rules in exchange of having a place to discuss stuff. That does not mean that the moderators and admins can do as they wish and expect not to be questioned. The forum exists for the benefit of the members, not for the benefit of the admins.
Originally Posted by Kyte Nobody joins a forum because they like the rules, but they agree to follow the rules in exchange of having a place to discuss stuff. This, basically.
Nobody joins a forum because they like the rules, but they agree to follow the rules in exchange of having a place to discuss stuff.
Originally Posted by Mike1984 I didn't join the forum because I liked the rules, though, I joined the forum to discuss TM.... There is still the understanding that, in joining the forum you agreed to the rules. You don't have to be here and discuss TM. It's not like government law where you don't have a choice but to be subject to them because you are automatically assumed to fall under their jurisdiction (because they have more/bigger guns than you do).
Originally Posted by Guy I think that the union of the threads will do more good than harm, but it would be nice to have us consulted first though. I'm not really convinced it is a good thing (although, honestly locking the specific threads and keeping only the general one open quite possibly would have been), but my main issue is with the lack of consultation, not with the decision itself. Originally Posted by Aiden There is a difference between the laws of society and the rules of an optionally joined, privately-owned forum. You aren't given a choice to be involved with the former, whereas you don't have to be here. It's rather like intentionally joining a private organization of any other sort and then flaunting the rules involved there. I didn't join the forum because I liked the rules, though, I joined the forum to discuss TM....
@Mike: Yeah, I figured, I just felt like driving the usual point home. Mostly because I have an exam coming up. XD Anyway: There is a difference between the laws of society and the rules of an optionally joined, privately-owned forum. You aren't given a choice to be involved with the former, whereas you don't have to be here. It's rather like intentionally joining a private organization of any other sort and then flaunting the rules involved there.
I think that the union of the threads will do more good than harm, but it would be nice to have us consulted first though.
Originally Posted by Ace There's no point in trying since I think we have quite enough mods at the moment. Other mods pls count :< :V
Originally Posted by fraggle Why don't you try to become a mod yourself here? Because I know that there's no chance of it happening, due to my nature. no trolling here. I'm honestly interested in what would happen if you became a mod yourself. While I might not agree with you on every subject, you do seem to have your image of what a moderator should be like. Honestly, I would do very little, because I don't believe in heavy moderation. However, I suspect that angry Sakura rants at newbies would have more gravitas than they should if accomponied by a glowing green name.... Originally Posted by Aiden Correlation does not equal causation bluh bluh/standard stats/research methods mantra Yeah, I know, but in this instance I was implying causation :p And that's less the policy of the moderators on that forum and more the policy of the web team that pays for and maintains the servers, since it's an official site that needs to run with a minimum of disruptions. Beast's Lair, being purely fan-run, can afford a bit more leniency. Perhaps, but that does not make it right to just cover up issues with the moderation. Still, there's a social contract involved, and those are the forum rules. You explicitly agree to follow them when you join. General and personal 'you' intended here. Yeah, to be quite frank, I don't buy that bollocks. I don't even follow the law.... And honestly, I've never seen much power abuse here. Certainly not something I would identify with this event, though there may have been more optimal solutions IRUn could have gone for in retrospect. Well, perhaps, in hindsight, "abuse of power" wasn't a good name for it. What he did was wrong, IMO, but he had good intentions, and it was not done for selfish reasons.
Originally Posted by fraggle Why don't you try to become a mod yourself here? no trolling here. I'm honestly interested in what would happen if you became a mod yourself. While I might not agree with you on every subject, you do seem to have your image of what a moderator should be like. There's no point in trying since I think we have quite enough mods at the moment.
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