Originally Posted by You The final form will differ depending on the areas attacked and how they were attacked. As for the explosion. I just wonder if it counts as a Broken Phantasm. I'm not really sure. Can it be called a Broken Phantasm when it seems the ultimate result was always going to be a massive explosion? I mean the original Apocrypha stuff from the Online Game pretty much implied that the energy was stocked up until 'Boom', so I'm not sure if it classifies. The transformation on the other hand, yeesh. I mean, wow, just, that thing...
Originally Posted by Hawkeye I'm reading through your translations, and I just feel the need to ask, what do you think of Crying Warmonger now that we know the end result? The final form will differ depending on the areas attacked and how they were attacked. As for the explosion. I just wonder if it counts as a Broken Phantasm.
I'm reading through your translations, and I just feel the need to ask, what do you think of Crying Warmonger now that we know the end result?
I would be giga-in for seeing some of this come into fruition in another fic, maybe one for Case Files? Pick some mythical location in the world, make up some magecraft stuff or why Magi would be interested in it about it and spice up with a cast of Magi who do their thing to get this macguffin
Originally Posted by Imperial There's a lot going on here, and I like it. I especially dig all the magi rivalry going on with things like Acht and Zouken's wildly different ways of pursuing their goals or the Eastern/Western class or the Flow/Inert dichotomy. It's a drag so much had to take off and derail your plans. That's the rub about working with a living franchise, but you could still pull this story off. There are a lot of working parts that could make for a grand story. Thanks but at least I can recycle the OC's for any RPs if I end up joining one.
Originally Posted by Lycodrake Definitely something interesting to explore, though I suppose I'm less in favor of Rin becoming "the ideal magus". The way I had it Rin doesn't become the ideal magus. Faced with her personal problems and how she's trying to save Fuyuki she tries to adopt the ideal magus personality and ends up bottling in a lot so that at one point she just explodes and she snaps and kills Luvia. So Rin as an example of why the Tohsaka motto is an ideal and doesn't work in practice is what I had in my notes.
There's a lot going on here, and I like it. I especially dig all the magi rivalry going on with things like Acht and Zouken's wildly different ways of pursuing their goals or the Eastern/Western class or the Flow/Inert dichotomy. It's a drag so much had to take off and derail your plans. That's the rub about working with a living franchise, but you could still pull this story off. There are a lot of working parts that could make for a grand story.
Definitely something interesting to explore, though I suppose I'm less in favor of Rin becoming "the ideal magus".
Thematically it focuses of Aria and Bram asking the question "what is a magus?" And it's the journey of these two and how they collect the other character's viewpoints of what defines a magus and then come to their own very different conclusions about the definition of a magus. Their stories run opposite to each other: Aria's is a human becoming a magus, and Bram's is a magus becoming a human. They don't meet in the middle. Rin is more like "the application of the ideal magus onto a person," and how that is unstable. Rin was used for the last part because it's a reference to Seig in Apo who is a reference to Rin in the prologue of SN, sort of a deja vu thing.
So thematically, since Shirou's story was about defining "heroism", what would you say this concept focuses on thematically for Rin - if my understanding of her being the "surviving protagonist" is correct?
Huh. There a lot of ideas there, and most of them seem really interesting. Humorously enough, the only reason I attributed Breakdown to you was the use of ruby-text. I didn't have a strong grasp of your writing style (despite reading Savior and chunks of Lorelei and the Snow Queen), so I went with the only recognizable factor.
Maybe if you translated it as God's *snerk* Consensus?
Oh dear, wouldn't that mean your joke is actually right?
Enuma Elish's attack is based off Gil's STR and MGI stats though. He'd be stronger in life that he would be as a Servant right so makes sense that Enuma Elish would be stronger.
Originally Posted by You I think it's better this way if it was a mistake. If it was Cosmic Ea people who thought CCC Enuma Elish was a buffed version of Enuma Elish because of the animation would be calling it Cosmic Ea. I don't know. Somehow I'm getting the impression that Enkidu's remark, the one on how the Ea he was facing wasn't as powerful as it was back in the age when the gods roamed, was sort of alluding to how it appeared in CCC. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
Originally Posted by Reiu Could Nasu have made the same mistake, and Gil's NP activation theme in CCC really should be titled "Cosmic Ea" instead of "Cosmic Air"? I think it's better this way if it was a mistake. If it was Cosmic Ea people who thought CCC Enuma Elish was a buffed version of Enuma Elish because of the animation would be calling it Cosmic Ea.
Originally Posted by You エア = Ea not air. Could Nasu have made the same mistake, and Gil's NP activation theme in CCC really should be titled "Cosmic Ea" instead of "Cosmic Air"?
Aha, I should added google translate disclaimer.
エア = Ea not air. I also third that.
Huh, 'air that has been further strengthened by the force of the treasure'. I wanna second Vagrant on what is this mythical very top of Noble Phantasms.