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True Magic (Others)

A Mystery different from magecraft. The final destination of every magus.
"True Magic" achieves things that cannot be realized in a given era. An "outcome" which can be achieved through the investment of time and resources is not True Magic.
Currently, the Association has determined five Magics.
The so-called First and Second Magic are only known by a limited few in the Church.
Although it is said that no more new "Magics" will emerge, Kokuto Mikiya insightfully pointed out the unrealized Magic.
For those of you who are curious about what this is referring to.

From Paradox Spiral, the exchange between Mikiya and Azaka.
……なるほど。たしかにそういう意味なら、魔法使いと魔術師は別だろう。今の人類にできない事といえば、時 間とか空間を操る事ぐらいだ。未来視も過去視も完全ではないが可能になりつつある時代なんだから、不可能な 事なんて本当に数えるぐらいしかない。
 いつか―――人間は魔法そのものを排除してしまうだろう。幼い頃、不思議に思えた様々な出来事に惹かれて 科学者になった青年が、研究を重ねるうちにその不思議自体をただの現象に引きずり下ろしてしま うみたいに。
「ふうん。そうなると最後の魔法っていうのは、みんなを幸せにする事ぐらいになっちゃうな」
 うん。よくは、わからないけど。
「―――――――――」
 鮮花は、なぜか黙ってしまった。
 意外なものを見るような顔でこちらを見ていたと思ったら、とたんに顔を背けてしまう。
... I see. In this sense, magi and Magicians were indeed different. Only things such as time and space manipulation were currently beyond the reach of humanity. In an era where limited forms of viewing the past and future had become possible, there were very few things that were indeed impossible.
Someday ---- humans would completely eliminate Magic. Youths became scientists as they attempted to understand fantastic things they witnessed as children. In the process, they seemed to accept the concept that these fantastic events were just natural phenomenons.
"Ah. Then the last Magic must be one that brings happiness to everyone."
Eh, I did not really understand.
"-----------"
Azaka for some reason became silent.
She stared at me as if she had seen something unexpected, and then suddenly turned away from me.
Mikiya, the wizard.

Updated December 30th, 2012 at 04:12 PM by food

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  1. Kelnish's Avatar
    Currently, the Association has determined five Magics.
    The so-called First and Second Magic are only known by a limited few in the Church.
    Oh. Hey Nasu, you ah, seemed to have changed your mind about some things.
  2. Dark Pulse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelnish
    Oh. Hey Nasu, you ah, seemed to have changed your mind about some things.
    Don't be ridiculous. Nasu has never changed his canon before; why would he start now?
  3. Kelnish's Avatar
    I apologize to the great and benevolent mushroom in the sky. I should not have doubted.
  4. Mcjon01's Avatar
    I wonder if it wasn't a conversion error. The Association and the Church are pronounced the same (きょうかい), and the document was transcribed by Chinese people who fuck this kind of stuff up all the time. It makes more sense if it was saying that the Association recognizes five magics, and even within the Association the First and Second are only known by a select few. To me at least.
  5. food's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01
    I wonder if it wasn't a conversion error. The Association and the Church are pronounced the same (きょうかい), and the document was transcribed by Chinese people who fuck this kind of stuff up all the time. It makes more sense if it was saying that the Association recognizes five magics, and even within the Association the First and Second are only known by a select few. To me at least.
    I wondered about it too, but it's on Japanese boards as well, so it's probably actually printed as is.

    Anyone who actually has a print copy, let me know.
  6. Strange_One's Avatar
    Eh? Srsly? The Final magic is happiness and goodwill to all?
  7. Gabriulio's Avatar
    HAPPY END.
  8. Tobias's Avatar
    The final magic is love, calling it now.
  9. Cruor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hen_Ichi
    Eh? Srsly? The Final magic is happiness and goodwill to all?
    Rather, he's saying he doesn't think science will ever aachieve everlasting happiness to all which is why a Magic, which according to Azaka is strictly something that operates above the current limits of science.
  10. Tobias's Avatar
    According to Nasu, he is right.
  11. Strange_One's Avatar
    Ooh... philosomaphy.

    Nasu you bastard.
  12. bahamut zero's Avatar
    without love you can not see
  13. Matsu's Avatar
    The Xth Magic: Unrealized Magic... Cool.
  14. terraablaze's Avatar
    The so-called First and Second Magic are only known by a limited few in the Church.
    I am confused by this, is this just referring to the church or was this supposed to represent the grand sum of all the knowledge of the world on the subject? And what's up with their supposedly being no more to discover but in Complete Material 3 it was like "there's always a chance!"