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The life of a Ki User

To further explain my comments on Oddmer's post... and my past involving Ki

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I may as well go into my studies of Ki a bit more. *cracks my knuckles*
Probably a long post from here on in, so be warned, Wall of Text to come for all those that read this.

First off, I study what's now known as, and later insulted and belittled, as RadKi, or Radical Ki. This first came about by a guy named MysteryShadow. He had the idea that you could combine basic Ki channeling exercises, such as four stage breathing, with Psionic techniques, to utilize your inner Ki more effectively. Pretty much, the guy made a basic website, then a forum, and mostly left it alone, giving rather basic methods to learn how to use your own Ki to do stuff. The forums enhanced this, though, and built upon his techniques, which is what I eventually learned to use for best and easiest results.

So, the first method he taught was grounding. Grounding is taking ambient Ki from the planet, and drawing it into your body, to let you feel what it feels like, as well as to let your Meridians work. Simple, easy, and noted that you'd have a tingling feeling in your hands, much like the "pins and needles feeling" when your foot's asleep, but without the prickling sensation of the pins and needles, and more like the general numbness. Other results noted were that you'd have increased blood flow to the body part you were channeling Ki to, and so the easiest way to tell if it was working, until you began to feel Ki, was to look for white spots slowly appearing upon your hands while meditating on the grounding exercise, and doing four stage breathing. For those that don't know what this is, it's Breathe in slowly, then hold your breath for 3-5 seconds, breathe out slowly, then don't breathe for 3-5 seconds.

It was, looking back upon it, extremely simple stuff. But it WORKED. 10 minutes a day doing the grounding exercise, while breathing like that, would let you feel your Ki.

He also warned of such things as Burnout, which is, basically, the problem of overusing Ki each day to the point where you couldn't feel it anymore.

For about a good year, I studied his guide, found a forum member that would mentor me, and generally did quite well. Then things started to go downhill. First, came the attempts to replicate Dragonball Z techniques more closely. This was... not unexpected. A lot of the people there were devoted to coming up with new techniques, and they thought a "Power Up" one like the Kaio Ken would be interesting to research. So, more forums opened up and devoted themselves to the idea of trying to replicate techniques, which finalized with a forum called "The Art of Kaio Ken". I still have a copy of an ancient e-mail from the year 2000 or so, explaining their "brilliant" technique for replicating it. (Hint. No, it really wasn't. At all.) But 4 or 5 different techniques were created by them, most of which had hefty health risks. From one guy suffering from having a shot earlier the day he was practicing, only to stare at blood spraying from where the shot was supposed to be fully healed, several feet away, to general problems with even getting it to work, possibly from not enough training the physical body... it was pretty rough as a technique to duplicate for them. But... before they could work out the problems with the technique... or much more development in the community could happen, the DBZers rolled in, as they were called.

Approximately 50 people decided to flood the forum, some asking where to get the rules for this "RPG that they had run into", others declaring themselves to be Saiyans, or Saiya-jin, for those that knew a bit more about the Japanese versions. But those that posted started ranting on the forums about "Easily pulling off the techniques" and wanting more.

Mystery Shadow's website and forum then went down, adding to the troubles that beset the community. Drastically so. And with Mystery Shadow's website gone... the original teachings that were used, all slowly started to degrade.

Initially, a technique explanation for grounding went like this.

"Close your eyes, and do the four stage breathing, as explained before. As you do this, visualize yourself, all of your body, and then slowly visualize roots, lowering from your body to the ground. Continue your breathing, and slowly visualize energy trickling up the roots, to your body, and all through it. It can look like anything you wish it to be, from water, to light, to lightning, to flames. Try different things until you get the results below. From here on in, slowly visualize it going to your hands, and continue accumulating it until you can feel it, as a sensation of your hands being 'asleep', but without the pins and needles. Now, from here on in, open your eyes, and look at your hands. Do they have white splotches on them? If not, close your eyes, and continue to practice until they do. When you're done, let all the power you drew from the earth, return to it, then go off to do other things. Don't do the exercise too much, or else you'll have a hard time feeling Ki if you experience Burnout. However, try to do this daily, once a day."

After this all happened, the people that wrote up on it, turned to a much simpler explination.

"Visualize roots going from your body, into the ground. Now, imagine energy flowing up from the ground, into your body, then push it to your hands. Continue until you can feel it."

And from this, it went on to, on most Radical Ki sites, be even simpler.

"Visualize energy going from the earth into your body, until you can feel it."

Do you see how it happened, now?

An example of one of the last pages still on the web, devoted to Radical Ki, is here: http://www.geocities.ws/ki_master_james/

Feel free to browse it around, as an example of how they tried to keep it to the original techniques, but failed. But that could be set as an "intermediate" site for explanations. Still though, it's not as descriptive as the original articles were.

From here on out, the "community" split into two sections. A. The section that believed in Radical Ki, and all it stood for, including the DBZers, and all, and B. The section that returned to the traditional methods.

The only place left that works on the Traditional Methods, is the Veritas Society. If you want to check them out, look it up. I've posted a couple times there, but I don't really care for it. You might, though.

As for me? I studied under my teacher as long as I could, took his advice, and became more like a hermit researcher. Rather than rely on the message boards, I stuck to myself, especially after a series of incidents involving a moron trying to make a deal with... SOMETHING on the astral plane. He wanted to get out of doing the rest of high school, the entity was "All too happy to help" then left him in the lurch halfway in. Most likely for his own amusement.

From there on out, I occasionally posted, but mainly kept to myself online rather than get involved with the huge arguments, mentoring and teaching people in what I learned, what I discovered, and what I figured out worked better, while still doing my best to explain things properly then rely overly on Visualization alone as the method to manipulating Ki, like most people that followed MysteryShadow's stuff did to this day.

Later, I heard about Naruto-tards showing up, the same way the DBZers did, only having a much shorter shelf life then the DBZers ever did. Instead of lasting about 5 years with their crap, the Naruto-tards lasted 3 weeks or so. "Chakra" and real life doesn't mix, and they were retarded to think otherwise. Plus, by that time, cameras advanced to the point where you could actually have webcams and show techniques working, so their BS was countered by "Take a picture of the damage, then!"

Ok, I'm done for today. Thought this might help you all out a bit to understand my background with Ki better. But ever since then, I've stuck my own path, and I've wound up mentoring a lot of people in Ki manipulation. Three of those people, if I had never mentored them, wouldn't be here today, either from the drugs one was thinking of taking because he couldn't get a date, or the other two by being suicidal. One flat out told me, point blank, "The Week I met you, I was planning on killing myself. You were the only reason why I didn't kill myself, and I'm glad to this day that I didn't decide to die anyways."

I think that's the greatest accomplishment of them all, right there.
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  1. Mcjon01's Avatar
    I wear a size 29.
  2. ZidanReign's Avatar
    Mcjon confirmed as Hobbit
  3. Enhance's Avatar
    I remember when I was 6 there was this comic magazine and it had a bubble gum attached (woo!) and it said if I eat it I'll be able to do DBZ stuff. My mother only let me eat half of it on the way (we were in a train), and it didn't work, no matter how much I concentrated my inner mind in my hands (felt similar to taking a dump). I think it's because I only had half, right?
    Updated February 27th, 2013 at 03:50 AM by Enhance
  4. RanmaBushiko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster
    This means you are probably self-inducing a psychosis.

    Seek help. Life welcomes everybody back. The sooner you start, the better.

    I wish you the best of luck if you do decide to get better!
    Um... no offense, dude... but you DO know that you've just insulted every Martial Arts Practitioner, Reiki Practitioner, and Acupuncturist on the planet with your sentence there, right? Estimated for 50 million people in Karate, and 70 million in Tae Kwon Do alone, we're talking at least 120 million people that would laugh in your face there for being a retard about Ki. Seriously, no offense... But do your research. Do the RESEARCH, THEN spout "facts".

    Kundalini Yoga practitioners would laugh you out of their studios. Yoga practitioners too, for that matter. Tai Chi practitioners would stare at you, then call you an idiot, a fool, or both for not even trying it before you insulted them and their martial art.

    Shoulin practitioners might just get you kicked off their property for disrespecting their centuries of practice, too.

    Acupuncture places would probably just ignore you, or prove you wrong, because all acupuncture pressure points are based off Meridian Flows, to stimulate Ki in the right areas.

    Reiki practitioners would ask you why the hell you're insulting them in the first place, too, for that matter.

    Seriously, do research FIRST, THEN spout your so called "facts".
  5. RanmaBushiko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Enhance
    I remember when I was 6 there was this comic magazine and it had a bubble gum attached (woo!) and it said if I eat it I'll be able to do DBZ stuff. My mother only let me eat half of it on the way (we were in a train), and it didn't work, no matter how much I concentrated my inner mind in my hands (felt similar to taking a dump). I think it's because I only had half, right?
    No offense, but... man, what a ripoff! I feel sorry for you. And no, you can't do "DBZ stuff with Ki anyways". Best you can do is launching a projectile of Ki, but it's hard as hell to keep stable once it's about 3 feet away from your body.

    Think more like Dan's Gadouken from Street Fighter, and you'll get it. Short ranged stuff works wonders... long ranged... not unless you've practiced something every day for ten years or so, you're not going to get very long range. Or if you're crazy-insane good with psionics constructs, but that's a whole different story, and not something I really study too much.

    The only "DBZ" technique that the Radical Ki practitioners were trying to do, was the Kaio Ken, and THAT... got your heart working so hard that the blood pressure skyrocketed from the stress on your body, to the point where when my one time mentor and teacher in Ki tried it, he had a tiny stream of blood shooting out from his arm, where he got a shot earlier that day. Scared the hell out of him, and me as well, honestly.
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  7. Break's Avatar
    This man sure doesnt get sarcasm...
    Btw regarding that, you do kbow that "ki" and "SOMETHING on the 'astral space' with which your buddy wouldve made a "contract"... Are two entirely different cans of worms, okay? I can accept you believing in chi-stufg even though i dont and its rather nebulous (by the way, most martial artist' on the world do NOT go on about the "mysterious powers of chi" or anything of the sort but thars unrelated now- but that you even believe in specters or drmons or seem to feel compelled to believe in all those thing just because you believe in one of thrm is just silly.
  8. Kotonoha's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RanmaBushiko
    Um... no offense, dude... but you DO know that you've just insulted every Martial Arts Practitioner, Reiki Practitioner, and Acupuncturist on the planet with your sentence there, right? Estimated for 50 million people in Karate, and 70 million in Tae Kwon Do alone, we're talking at least 120 million people that would laugh in your face there for being a retard about Ki. Seriously, no offense... But do your research. Do the RESEARCH, THEN spout "facts".

    Kundalini Yoga practitioners would laugh you out of their studios. Yoga practitioners too, for that matter. Tai Chi practitioners would stare at you, then call you an idiot, a fool, or both for not even trying it before you insulted them and their martial art.

    Shoulin practitioners might just get you kicked off their property for disrespecting their centuries of practice, too.

    Acupuncture places would probably just ignore you, or prove you wrong, because all acupuncture pressure points are based off Meridian Flows, to stimulate Ki in the right areas.

    Reiki practitioners would ask you why the hell you're insulting them in the first place, too, for that matter.

    Seriously, do research FIRST, THEN spout your so called "facts".
    What, you mean the research that consistently fails to find any evidence that ki exists?

    Also I am pretty comfortable insulting acupuncturists and reiki practitioners at the very least, snake oil salesmen pls go
  9. I3uster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RanmaBushiko
    Um... no offense, dude... but you DO know that you've just insulted every Martial Arts Practitioner, Reiki Practitioner, and Acupuncturist on the planet with your sentence there, right? Estimated for 50 million people in Karate, and 70 million in Tae Kwon Do alone, we're talking at least 120 million people that would laugh in your face there for being a retard about Ki. Seriously, no offense... But do your research. Do the RESEARCH, THEN spout "facts".
    Tae-Kwon-Do is a barely 60 years old Shotokan Karate derivative, and neither of those actually train you in "Ki control". They are more practical than they are spiritual martial arts. Reiki and Acupuncture were already debunked by Kotonoha.

    The thing is, there is a difference in believing in a universal life energy and thinking that you can materialize swords with your mind. The moment you start feeling swords you are already altering your state of consciousness and losing your grip on reality, and that can be dangerous. You probably came in contact with the term Tulpa if you dabbled in the esoteric. People feel those things, they see them, but they don't exist. They have managed to gift themselves a psychosis that will be hard to treat.

    You're still young enough to turn your life around. You can escape this. Fight! Everybody can be strong if they only have the will to do it.
    It's easy to flee from reality with delusions, but facing it is far more rewarding. I am sure you can do it!
  10. SeiKeo's Avatar
    raw raw fait da powa
  11. Break's Avatar
    to further implore on 13uster's point i myself have practiced Aikijutsu for along time, its a lot older than most of the "popular" martial arts around and its in fact what the Samurai did when they couldnt use their swords. And it never, ever, mentions Ki. my Teacher didnt go for the Ki, and judging from his stories of HIS teacher, who was one of the best in around apparently, that one didnt go for any "swordmaterialization" either. there is not a single technique or training or notion that would rely on anything supernatural, AT ALL. In fact i know of no serious Martial Art that would go for the esoteric "ki" stuff. the most they would go for would be hitting pressure points; but nothing uncertain and magic like that. If you want a martial Art that would go for the "ki", it would likely be a New-Age thing founded by some northamerican "guru".
  12. Kelnish's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster
    You're still young enough to turn your life around. You can escape this. Fight! Everybody can be strong if they only have the will to do it.
    It's easy to flee from reality with delusions, but facing it is far more rewarding. I am sure you can do it!

    I think I'm gonna trust the opinion of millions of drug abusers over some 12 year old German. If there are millions of them they can't be wrong amirite?
  13. In-N-Out Double-Double & Animal Fries's Avatar
    What do you do for a living?
  14. Enhance's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyokushi
    What do you do for a living?
    Isn't it obvious? Materialize ki into currency.
  15. Neir's Avatar
    When I was considering majoring in physics, about 12 years ago, I considered the theories that would allow life energy to manifest in the visible light spectrum. Then I realized I was a fucking chuuni.

    Also, my employer is an acupuncturist and I've seen her work, and I'm pretty sure your stuff is crazy.
    Updated February 27th, 2013 at 06:24 PM by Neir
  16. Seika's Avatar
    OK, so is Whiny Useless McSlacker over there or Self-Deluded Science Failure over here worse? Voting begins now.
  17. In-N-Out Double-Double & Animal Fries's Avatar
    Most pitiful BL member of 2012
  18. Ivan The Mouse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster
    You're still young enough to turn your life around. You can escape this. Fight! Everybody can be strong if they only have the will to do it.
    It's easy to flee from reality with delusions, but facing it is far more rewarding. I am sure you can do it!
    Stop telling him this, it's sounding like a cheap advice from a shady "motivational speaker". Everyone knows this already.

    I'm telling you, reality doesn't need someone's belief or denial for it to exist and function. If it is raining and even if you don't believe that it isn't, that will not change the fact that it is raining. You could go out of the house, get wet from the rain and still deny that it is raining or believe that it is not raining, but that will not change the fact that it is raining and your clothes got wet from standing in the rain.

    Because no matter how someone will actively deny, disbelieve or reject reality, it will hit us and we live in it.

    So telling people that their beliefs are wrong is useless because physically sensing and psychologically believing is very different. It might only make his belief stronger because of "argumentum ad martyrdom" and he can be the only one who can change his own beliefs, not us.
    Updated February 27th, 2013 at 10:50 PM by Ivan The Mouse
  19. RanmaBushiko's Avatar
    I do a lot of odd jobs, and pay about 500 dollars a month for room and board where I stay at. Leaves me with a bit of money each month, most of which I dump straight into my savings.
    And manifesting Ki into currency? Lol... sarcasm is your friend. I'm sure a lot of morons believed that to be possible, back when I was younger, too. Probably thought along the lines of this:

    Durr, I MAKE MONEY OUT OF NOTHING! DURR! ME SMART! ME MAKE RICHES FROM NOTHING! Durrr... Why noone but me see money I make? Durrr... and why money translucent? Durr! WHY IT NO WORK?! ME SMASH MONEY NOW!

    Durr... money faded into nothing? Durr... me try again!

    Repeat until retard figured it out.

    Seriously, though? I'd think you all would have at least be understanding of beliefs and points of view.

    Also, thanks Ivan, for being a voice of reason here. Just because someone has a viewpoint, doesn't mean it's correct. I've been studying Ki for 14 years now, and I believe it to be real. If you want to deny that Ki exists, fine by me, but people shouldn't insult other people in the process.
    Updated February 27th, 2013 at 10:49 PM by RanmaBushiko
  20. Mcjon01's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Seika
    OK, so is Whiny Useless McSlacker over there or Self-Deluded Science Failure over here worse? Voting begins now.
    Hey! Who're you callin' Mc, buddy!? Watch your mouth!
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