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A Full Analysis of Servants And Their Roles (Archer)

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Archer

Okay, here we are again with my full servant analysis. Given the response to my previous blog posts, I feel I should make this very clear. Yes, I am an editor for the TMwiki, but my blog posts, unless specifically referring to factual data, are entirely my own opinion/misconception as the case may be, and are not indicative of content from the wiki or its practices (Though some errors are likely to occur) The entire reason I make blogs is to put up either information not fit for the wiki, or stuff that generally doesn't belong there, like these analysis.


Now then, in regards to the Archer class, the placement of a servant in this class has little to do with the attributes of the hero, instead being based on their possession of powerful projectile based Noble Phantasms. They do however possess a standard like any other with Strength, Endurance and Agility all ranked C and Mana and Luck rank E. They typically possess decent Magic Resistance and their class skill is independent Action, making them decent scouts who need not rely heavily on their Masters.


Fate/Zero, Fate/strange fake
Our first subject is one who comes back to the concept of 'Cheat' servants I addressed in my Sabre analysis. Gilgamesh, King of Heroes and the shiny golden douche who acts as final boss for Zero and a good part of Fate/Stay Night. While he technically only possesses three Noble Phantasms that represent him as a heroic spirit, the primary one he makes use of is Gate of Babylon.


An inexhaustible armoury capable of firing numerous high ranked Noble Phantasm classed weapons at the target, this is the reason Gilgamesh was placed into the Archer class, and the unknown properties of the various weapons he uses makes combating this onslaught head to head basically impossible for most opponents.


His haughty nature and the fact that he recognises few as worthy of his time makes him pretty well suited to the rebellious nature of Archers. Stats wise, in his first appearance, he's still above average, but in Zero, he's even more ridiculous, his every statistic at least one full rank above the standard, this is to say nothing of his other weapons.


A golden armour that makes him basically invincible to standard attacks, even stopping repeated blows from Excalibur (just the sword, not the lightshow) without any apparent damage.


Enkidu, an Anti-Divine chain named for his only friend, it can be looped in and out of the Gate to constrain any opponent with Divinity.


Finally, Ea, the precursor to the Sword, this drill-like weapon rends the world with every blow. While its output is similar to Excalibur (the lightshow), it is basically incomparable to the armaments of any other hero.


Over all, Gilgamesh is decidedly an 'End Boss' type, suited more to being an indomitable road block to others, rather than the 'scout' type servant Archers are considered to be.


Fate/Stay Night
Next up, while Prototype had intended Gilgamesh as the given Archer of the war, Stay Night replaced him with EMIYA, a Counter Guardian version of protagonist Shirou Emiya. Having lived a life in which he basically got screwed over in attempting to follow his ideal, he became a Counter Guardian with the ultimate goal of undoing the man he would become.


Stat wise, he's actually somewhat underpowered for an Archer, possessing low strength, but evens it out with heightened mana to reflect his skills with magecraft.


His ability allows him to duplicate weapons, in particular Noble Phantasms, repeatedly at the cost of a rank in his replicas' ability. By doing so, he can make up for his rather mediocre power by essentially cheating.


He normally fights with the dual swords, Kanshou and Bakuya, which are paired blades that are drawn to one another, allowing him to throw them, replicate a second pair and use them as a homing attack. In the event that he's disarmed or his blades are broken, he can also simply create more, easily making up for the inherent weakness of his duplicates.


As far as projectiles go, he can also cheat by modifying swords into arrows. Further more, by overloading them with mana, he can turn them into Broken Phantasms, resulting in large explosions on impact, and since he can just duplicate more, this is decidedly less of a risk for him than it is for other servants.


His strongest skill is his 'Noble Phantasm' (in commas to reflect that it is the closest thing he has to an actual one that belongs to him) The Reality Marble, Unlimited Bladeworks. Creating an open field covered in blades with giant gears floating in the sky above, this area is the forge from which EMIYA draws all of his creations, granting him a similarly limitless armoury to Gilgamesh with which to attack his opponents.


With his generally stoic and dismissive persona, EMIYA is also fairly typical in personality for an Archer, brought into particular focus during the Unlimited Blade Works route, in which he openly betrays his master (but not really) without informing anybody of his plans.


Ultimately, while closer to the standard than Gilgamesh, EMIYA is more a walking Swiss army knife than a scout or projectile expert.


Fate/Extra
While there's actually two Archers around for Fate/Extra, one is a variant of EMIYA, so I'm not really gonna bother with that and just address the other guy.


Robin Hood. Basically the guy I'm pretty sure every single person was wondering about as an Archer from the first time they were introduced to the Fate franchise. He is the legendary outlaw of Sherwood forest, and while not quite matching the 'band of merry men' Errol Flynn style character, he's got above average agility, mana and luck, and is probably the closest servant to fitting the 'standard' of the Archer class.


Having the anti-social tendencies of most Archers, Robin detests the up front combat style of other 'knights' and prefers to fight from the shadows, using traps and poisons to take out his enemies long before he ever has to face them head to head.


He possesses two Noble Phantasms, neither seem particularly powerful, but both serve to enhance his already pretty formidable skills in ranged battle. The first is Yew Bow. A crossbow made from the trees of Sherwood Forest, when invoked, it amplifies any poison effect on the target.


His second, No Face May King, allows him to conceal himself like an Assassin, which is funnily what got him in trouble with his master in the game. He can also pass it onto others, but they kind of need to know how to use it.


All together, he seems well suited to being the 'scout' who attacks from range, all of his abilities leaning towards avoiding a direct encounter with his enemies, a trait that greatly annoys his honourable master, Dan Blackmore, the manliest man alive.


Fate/Apocrypha
Another one with a duo of servants, both of whom happen to be ancient Greek in origin.


Starting off with the Black Faction, we have Chiron the centaur, legendary trainer of heroes and immortal child of the Titan, Cronus. Having assumed human form to avoid giving away his identity too easily, he apparently received some reduction in ability. The fact that the majority of his stats are rank B, with an A+ in agility making him an easy match for Lancers, I dread to think what he's like at full power.


He possesses a scary level of perception, allowing him to easily diagnose a terminal illness with the barest of details observable to others, is basically given tactical command by the Black Faction during battle, and being a sage with wisdom bestowed by the gods, can essentially mimic other personal skills at rank B~A so long as they aren't characteristic of another hero.


In battle, he can use hand to hand combat in combination with his bow skills to fight evenly with Rider of Red, Achilles, who is basically considered one of the Red Faction's two major trump cards in this war.


His Noble Phantasm is Antares Snipe, which I'll be honest, I don't fully understand the mechanics behind it, but is basically a shot fired from the constellation Sagittarius, at, and this is where I get hazy, either the enemy, or the Scorpio constellation which represents the enemy, either way, it is a shot that is done without the use of Chiron's own bow and can be activated without announcement, making it a sniping move completely without warning. Being a shot fired from a constellation, it also becomes (to my knowledge) the Phantasm with the biggest range ever, travelling light years to strike its target.


Personality wise, he seems to be the one Archer we've seen who isn't in constant douche mode, instead being more akin to a mentor to others, he is actually very amicable, judging his approach with others on what he believes they most need from him.


Over all, he's easily one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful Archer besides Gilgamesh and his cheating ways.


Next up is Atalanta. A huntress raised in the wild thanks to having the favour of the goddess, Artemis, she grew into a top notch hero, even accompanying the Argonauts. Having been raised in the wild, her personality is rather bestial and simple, not taking heed of the more complex social interactions people have. She takes special care with children, in regards to looking after them in return for the favour she received. In this way, her wish for the Grail is entirely selfless, wishing every child to grow up with love.


In terms of stats, her strength is low and her endurance is downright abysmal, sitting at a record low among her class at E, but like Chiron excels in agility.


In regards to her general ability, much like Robin Hood, she can easily traverse and melt into forests, even when observed by others. Her beast like sense of smell and sight allow her to detect enemies long before Rider of Red and to strike targets with pinpoint accuracy in dense forest even in the dead of night.


She has two Noble Phantasms.


The first, Phoebus Catastrophe, is a technique where she notches two arrows and fires them into the sky. In return she receives the divine protection of the twin gods, Apollo and Artemis. 'Protection', is however, an iffy term when referring to the Greeks, and in this case, mimics the tale of when the pair shot down all the children of Niobe after she insulted their mother. As a result, the area surrounding Atalanta is covered in a downpour of arrows not unlike a torrential rain, each shot with enough power to pierce through Caster of Black's golems, or to drive Berserker of Red to a near death state before he regenerates.


The second is a combination of two Phantasms from her original design. Agrius Metamorphosis is a transformation ability, brought about by cloaking oneself in the pelt of the Calydonian Boar, Atalanta gains its power, receiving a startling increase in offence, defence and movement speed.


In conclusion, while less outwardly powerful compared to Chiron or Gilgamesh, Atalanta possesses a fairly solid foundation in ability and covers her weaknesses well through the use of her Noble Phantasms. Oddly, her alignment of Neutral Evil, seems to mostly reflect her disregard for social standards at the time more than any actual malevolence, similar to Karna among the Lancers.


Unused
The next on my list is David, King of Israel who killed the giant, Goliath. Originally designed for the Fate/Apocrypha online game, he didn't make it into the light novels, as such, his abilities seem rather unbalanced and unpolished.


Stat wise he is mostly unexceptional apart from his luck, which is A.


His personal skills are Divine Protection, Harp Performance, Divinity and Charisma. While not giving him a particular strength in any area of combat, it seems that he is angled towards team play, Charisma and Harp Performance acting as solid support skills and honestly, I'm still not sure what Divine Protection does, its description is clear as mud.


However, it is his Noble Phantasms, of which there are three, that boast David's real strength.


Hamesh Avanim, is a sling made of plant matter and five stones and is likely the reason for David's placement in the Archer class. With the first four acting as warning shots, the fifth is a hard to dodge non-lethal assault that knocks out the target and reassigns ownership of their Noble Phantasms to David. While not truly giving him possession of their Noble Phantasms, it essentially removes the opponent's ability to use them via divine edict.


The second is Sacrifice: Flame upon the Alter, is an incense burner when not in use, upon activation, the violet fumes surround the target and call down flames from the heavens which incinerate them.


His final, and most broken Noble Phantasm, Ark: The Chest of the Covenant, is a fairly specific, but none the less devastating device. A wooden chest containing the original Ten Commandments, anyone who touches it besides David is drained of their prana until dead, Indie style. He could basically throw this thing at people and kill them without a fight.


Personality wise, he is devoutly religious, seeing himself as an instrument of God, but he does have the odd slip into lecherousness in reference to his seemingly singular sin in life.


All in all, I think David was intended as a more support orientated Archer with a couple of big show stoppers for later into fights, but ultimately didn't pan out that way. While I can't say much for his fighting style, his personality seems more forthright than the likes of Robin or Atalanta, though his seemingly singular devotion to God might make co-operation with his master somewhat tricky depending.


Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Blue and Silver
Okay, gonna be real quick about this one, we basically know nothing about them. I'm not even sure if it's a guy or a girl. They are however compared to Sir Tristan in terms of ability. Archer is capable of launch huge salvos of arrows that can easily shatter boulders. There is however a very slight pause between shots like this, which lengthens the greater the size of the barrage.


This does however put them in the same class as Gilgamesh and Atalanta as Archers who can basically carpet bomb their targets, perhaps even better from a skill point of view as the other two achieve this via Noble Phantasm, which does not appear to be the case with this Archer.


Koha-Ace
The Archer antithesis to Gilgamesh, Koha-Ace provides us with Nobunaga Oda... The girl version, cause hey, Nasuverse.


While stat wise she is basically a match for Gilgamesh whilst under Tokiomi, her actual ability to fight opponents is based on their level of divinity and mystery, making her style of combat the 'ultimate game of compatibility'.


Having attempted to wipe out Shinto and Buddhism across the land during her reign, Nobu, as she is nicknamed, has greater ability against heroes whose legends evoke the power of gods or mysterious origins. As such, more recent heroes with fewer fantastical abilities are actually better suited to fighting her than those older servants with miraculous powers.


Her personal skill, Tenka Fubu, is named for Nobunaga's policy of militarism and represents her replacing the older ways with her own. It gives her a boost against enemies that were considered Guardians of an establishment.


Her first Noble Phantasm, Three Thousand Worlds, materialises three thousand arquebus rifles, and is described as a 'Mami-like gun-kata', which in itself evokes hilarious imagery. Undoubtedly the skill that made her an Archer, this phantasm has great effect against heroes with the Riding skill, and even at its least effective, can still level thousands of rifles against a target, even forcing Sakura Sabre, a servant with very little mystery, to near death.


Her second Phantasm takes its name from Nobu's self granted title, Demon King of the Sixth Heaven. A Reality Marble, it materialises a 'burning hell' and renders Nobu nude as a visual effect (Cause Nasuverse) While heroes of low divinity would find it somewhat hot, this Phantasm represents the burning of Mount Hiei and other horrendous deeds she did in life, making the resulting effect against more mysterious heroes a horrendous environment that would make it difficult to even exist.


In terms of personality, Nobu seems quite egotistical and insane from what I can tell, although I can't be certain as I can't read Japanese and have to go off pictures mostly.

Over all, I really can't say that Nobunaga was intended as anything but the Anti-Gilgamesh. Not in the sense that she is built to beat him, but that she seems to work on the entire opposite of his concept. While Gilgamesh is the oldest hero from whom all others take their cue, and those descended from him suffer for it, Nobunaga works in the opposite direction, the older and more mythic the hero, the greater disadvantage they have against her.


Archer Conclusion
In conclusion, the only things that seem to be accurate about Archers is that they possess some very formidable Noble Phantasms and tend to towards unco-operativeness. Most tend to have much higher mana than is the presented average, and their other stats tend to be all over the place, but that is something more expected of a class where stats are not a defining trait. Their status as 'scouts' seem to only hold true for two of them, the majority being either powerful 'Boss' type characters that act as fairly big obstacles to the protagonists of most Fate stories, or the more tactical specialists like EMIYA and David.

Updated April 11th, 2015 at 04:51 PM by Hawkeye

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  1. SeiKeo's Avatar
    /u/Christemo
  2. Hawkeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by @Leo
    /u/Christemo
    Yeah, I'm basically waitin' for him too...
  3. Imperial's Avatar
    Dan Blackmore, the manliest man alive.
    Keep telling yourself that.
  4. Christemo's Avatar
    By "shooting from the constellation Centaurus" it doesn't mean literally the the constellation light years away, just the image in the sky of earth.

    Nobunaga also isn't Gil's antithesis because he's specifically exemplified along side Karna as someone so powerful that whatever advantage she might gain is still insignificant to them.

    Also the whole calling Gil a cheater thing is weird considering hes one of the heroes who have done the most to get what he has. Compare people like Achilles or Karna getting their destinies and items of note handed to them on a silver platter.
  5. forumghost's Avatar
    Because unlike those Guys, Gil was totally not created to be the god-king of mankind by some kind of divine edict, right?
  6. You's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by you
    Yes, I am an editor for the TMwiki, but my blog posts, unless specifically referring to factual data, are entirely my own opinion/misconception as the case may be, and are not indicative of content from the wiki or its practices, as the entire reason I make blogs is to put up either information not fit for the wiki, or stuff that generally doesn't belong there, like these analysis.
    Quote Originally Posted by you
    His Noble Phantasm is Antares Snipe, which I'll be honest, I don't fully understand the mechanics behind it, but is basically a shot fired from the constellation Centaurus, at, and this is where I get hazy, either the enemy, or the Scorpio constellation which represents the enemy, either way, it is a shot that is done without the use of Chiron's own bow and can be activated without announcement, making it a sniping move completely without warning.
    Quote Originally Posted by tm wikia
    is a Noble Phantasm of Chiron. It is an ability where the Centaurus constellation fires an arrow at the target, represented by the constellation Scorpio, allowing him to fire at an enemy without using his own bow. Chiron does not need to announce it's true name to activate it.
    really...

    btw it's Sagittarius.
  7. ZidanReign's Avatar
    I can't read font that is literally blinding my eyes in bold.
  8. Christemo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost
    Because unlike those Guys, Gil was totally not created to be the god-king of mankind by some kind of divine edict, right?
    Yes, so all he was given was a divine body of great power, which he never used because he found lobbing swords at people to be really great.
  9. Renko's Avatar
    I was really waiting for this one~☆
  10. Hawkeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo
    By "shooting from the constellation Centaurus" it doesn't mean literally the the constellation light years away, just the image in the sky of earth.

    Nobunaga also isn't Gil's antithesis because he's specifically exemplified along side Karna as someone so powerful that whatever advantage she might gain is still insignificant to them.

    Also the whole calling Gil a cheater thing is weird considering hes one of the heroes who have done the most to get what he has. Compare people like Achilles or Karna getting their destinies and items of note handed to them on a silver platter.
    Well like I said, she's the Anti-Gil not in the case that she can beat him, but that her entire fighting style works on the opposite concept to his.

    As for Gil being a cheater, you yourself have stated that he possesses three Noble Phantasms. So the fact that one of these three then possesses the ability to spew out countless more as the 'strongest arrows' seems like rather a cheat skill to me.
  11. Hawkeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by You
    really...

    btw it's Sagittarius.
    Fair enough, there are some fuck ups, though aside from the naming of the constellation, is there anything wrong there?
  12. Hawkeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ZidanReign
    I can't read font that is literally blinding my eyes in bold.
    You mean just the stuff in bold, or the whole text? Cause I can try and fix that.
  13. You's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye
    Fair enough, there are some fuck ups, though aside from the naming of the constellation, is there anything wrong there?
    Yes. There is.
  14. Seika's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye
    You mean just the stuff in bold, or the whole text? Cause I can try and fix that.
    Personally, it's just way too huge a font size. Looks very odd.

    Yeah, it's size 3 instead of the forum standard 2, so it's a pretty big relative increase. It's the same font as usual, just overlarge.
    Updated April 11th, 2015 at 01:38 PM by Seika
  15. Hawkeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by You
    Yes. There is.
    Well any factual corrections are appreciated, those based on opinion, we can leave to Christemo to give me a hard time over.
  16. peanuts's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by You
    really...

    btw it's Sagittarius.
    I wonder how they picked it up as being Centaurus. I even said in my first post on the matter that it was Sagittarius.
    At least I thought I did?