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EXTRA Shenanigans Part 3: It's an ALICE Sandwich!

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Before I start, I would just like to say one thing: I miss my Crystal Ball

As far as I know, Alice and Alice are widely regarded as the easiest boss fight in the entire game, especially with a Saber, who can tank their spells and proceed to snap them like twigs. As you could probably tell by my mentioning it at the end of the last post, it... did not quite go like that during my latest playthrough!

Unlike the other Servants besides Saver, you literally need to finish Nursery Rhyme off before she activates her NP, otherwise she-- pardon my French--punts you in the dick so hard that you get booted back to the very start of the match. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Mostly.

Now, 8 turns is not exactly that much time, but anyone who's been playing normally can manage to easily kill her within that span of time. Except for maybe Caster, because you really need to ration her spells if you don't happen to have one of the MP-restoring staves, but that's neither here nor there. In most of my other playthroughs, I had to try really hard not to deal that much damage or waste too many resources; the limit I put in this specific fight was to allow her to use her Phantasm at least once, in case you couldn't tell. I tossed that out of the window with this particular iteration, because it ended up happening, anyway. Repeatedly.

I had enough points saved up to have potentially raised my AGI to B-rank, which probably would've upped Nero's damage output to a good enough extent, but I elected to raise her Mana, instead, so as to help her defend against Nursery Rhyme's onslaught of spells. Next run, though, I'll definitely make a note to try raising my AGI or using one of the Strength-boosting equips, because this fight went from epic to downright annoying.

Not only did I not have the MP to make much of a difference in rounds (I wasted it all trying desperately to kill her before the 8th round was over during one of the first iterations of this match), but Caster's spellcasting made it difficult to do EXTRA attacks in many rounds, and Alice casting a dinky little heal in one of her turns didn't help matters much, either. Granted, she would always heal for a piddling amount, but it was definitely enough to stall me out for several repeats.

After roughly 30 minutes and 6-7 encore performances of going absolutely nowhere, I finally decided enough was enough, methodically recorded the Alices' actions over a single set, and, on the next repeat, utterly wasted them . And it was just in the nick of time, too; I was very much out of resources by the time I finally finished Nursery Rhyme! Also, on this note, I already knew I could've looked up the whole set of rounds online, but felt it would be cheating if I didn't at least try to win normally. HONOOOOR, and all that.

If freaking Caster can give me this much trouble, I shudder to think of what facing Lu Bu will be like

Updated July 8th, 2015 at 06:51 PM by Golden_Sorcerer

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  1. Thedoctor's Avatar
    You shall not pass!
  2. Golden_Sorcerer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thedoctor
    You shall not pass!
    ...That just gave me the
    terrible
    wonderful
    idea of a Lu Bu vs. Balrog fight. Do you think I should go post that sucker over on the Badass VS thread?
  3. Rafflesiac's Avatar
    >facing Lu Bu
    >choosing inferior heroine trash facsimile of Rin
    >not teaming up with superior Rani and facing off against Cu, thus finally being able to put your Luck to use

    You have horribly skewed priorities.
  4. Golden_Sorcerer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac
    >facing Lu Bu
    >choosing inferior heroine trash facsimile of Rin
    >not teaming up with superior Rani and facing off against Cu, thus finally being able to put your Luck to use

    You have horribly skewed priorities.
    I was gonna talk about it, come my Stage 4 post, but since you brought it up...

    I tested out the speed of the three high-ranking stats in terms of progression, and Agility and Luck seemed relatively equal. My reasoning for starting with the Rin route is twofold: for one thing, it would make an adequate test of whether or not I can raise one of the two stats to A by the time of the Stage 6 match, provided I mainly focus on raising it. After all, I would feel abundantly silly if I spent all that time raising my Luck, only to still have it come up short against the Gae Blog Bolg! Secondly, I also wanted to test whether I could avoid getting locked into an eternal stalemate against Lu Bu and his Auto-res ability, with Nero's canon stats.

    I do agree with you on Rani route being superior overall, but unfortunately, that'll have to wait until I'm done with this first playthrough. It is coming eventually, I'll give you that much. I want to test how the Servants' canonical builds do against every opponent, so naturally, two playthroughs are the necessary minimum.
  5. Thedoctor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Sorcerer
    ...That just gave me the
    terrible
    wonderful
    idea of a Lu Bu vs. Balrog fight. Do you think I should go post that sucker over on the Badass VS thread?
    Gandalf isn't exactly a feeble old man it would be moreappropriate to call him a demigod if we're going by the canon book version. Lu Bu would most likely have problems with the Balrog as he specialises in killing humans not greater demons.

    Derp mixing up my heroes now, he'd probably have a good chance.
    Updated July 8th, 2015 at 09:07 PM by Thedoctor
  6. Megas's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac
    >facing Lu Bu
    >choosing inferior heroine trash facsimile of Rin
    >not teaming up with superior Rani and facing off against Cu, thus finally being able to put your Luck to use

    You have horribly skewed priorities.
    I've literally saved Rin every time except my most recent run.

    Rani is just too much of a dead fish.
  7. Rafflesiac's Avatar
    Well, you have good taste at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    I've literally saved Rin every time except my most recent run.

    Rani is just too much of a dead fish.
    Too bad about yours, though.
  8. The Geek's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac
    >facing Lu Bu
    >choosing inferior heroine trash facsimile of Rin
    >not teaming up with superior Rani and facing off against Cu, thus finally being able to put your Luck to use

    You have horribly skewed priorities.
    >Implying Rani isn't shit.

    You have horribly skewed priorities.
  9. Break's Avatar
    Except Rani is literally amazing
    And blonde-rin literally a bad faker.
  10. JetKinen's Avatar
    Should not have pursued it.
  11. Golden_Sorcerer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JetKinen
    Should not have pursued it.
    And yet, I must. FOR SCIENCE MAGECRAFT!!!