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Rider Nebuchadnezzar II Additional Information

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Noble Phantasms in other normal classes

Path of Babylon, the golden road leading towards the kingdom - B
A noble phantasm which manifests when Rider would be summoned in his lily form under the saber class. In exchange for The Treasury of Babylon NP being lost alongside the road of Babylon (and him lacking the Hanging gardens which he constructed much later in his life) this ability would manifest as “proof of Saber being Nebuchadnezzar II, who opened the Gate of Babylon and would seek to regather all the world’s treasures. In effect, this NP functions similarly to a personal skill held by Arjuna in Indian mythology, when faced with a negative situation by the usage of this noble phantasm an item from the Treasury of Babylon he obtained and filled later in life manifests which would prove helpful in dealing with the situation. However, the main drawback is that while the items are helpful in theory this assumes Saber can figure out how they are helpful or how to properly use them in that situation which may not always be the case.
Anti-Situation
1 item

Gate of Ishtar, O Venus overflow thine light upon this world - D - A+
A noble phantasm which would manifest under the faker (due to Venus / Ishtar’s connections to the myth of Gilgamesh) and Caster class (in exchange for those classes either losing Merodach and/or the hanging Gardens as a Noble Phantasm). The gate of Ishtar was described as a beautiful gate worthy of being considered as perhaps having should have been included in the 7 wonders of the ancient world. In terms of its nature, Venus was associated by the Mesopotamians as being associated with Ishtar the twin goddess of Love and War, and the possible inspiration behind the morning and evening star, later the Romans would also associate with it the concept of wealth which has influenced this Noble Phantasm. The Gate itself physically manifests the gate itself, but this is part of what is needed to activate its effect.

By Caster / Faker giving an offering of wealth (something he would be more inclined to do as Caster than Faker) such as gold and jewels into the gate they are then instantly swallowed up as though the gate were a portal and from the other side autonomous golems made of precious metals and jewels will appear, at times these may be human although depending on the offering monstrous and phantasmal, perhaps even a divine beast could be summoned. Although one may consider these creatures as a lesser threat, they are not to be underestimated as even the weakest of them (seeming human golems) would be enough to match an experienced mage, and although the beasts are not on par with their real counterparts their strength is formidable. Caster/Faker has claimed that were he to sacrifice a sizable portion of his wealth and treasury he could even perhaps have the gate manifest a golem imitating a dragon, the peak of all phantasmal species. Given the similarity to the Gate of Babylon and its effect in how it stores or retrieves objects, it can be surmised that how this effect is achieved is by Caster / Faker offering wealth and objects of value to Ishtar, using the gate as a means of transporting them to her, in exchange for which she provides him, support in battle.
Anti-Army
1000 people

Charge of Neo-Babylon, upon these ashes may my empire rise - B++
A noble phantasm available as Saber or Berserker, it represents the aspect of the conqueror who was hated and despised by the Jewish people of Jerusalem for the destruction he brought upon them and their city and for destroying the temple of Solomon. In effect, this can only be used against a fortified location (a workshop, temple, an area surrounded by a bounded field, a fortress, etc. but when activated a large number of soldiers made of flame are manifested which charge forth if destroyed or slain they explode into a burst of fire, if they come into contact with an enemy or fortification they will also explode into flame and burn away at them. Either way, the result is the same that the assaulting forces will destroy and burn anything in their path to subdue any resistance and create a path for their leader’s conquest (metaphorically scorching the earth). Due to being associated with the destruction of the temple of Solomon religious institutions or those connected to Christianity or its related faiths suffer greater damage from this noble phantasm.
Anti-City, Anti-Temple
800 people


Nebuchadnezzar II’s Realization
“At last” those were the thoughts that rushed through my head as I watched as the gates swung open. The treasury of Gilgamesh, the greatest heirloom of the ancient world, the goal I had sought ever since I found that single gold piece with his name and image in my youth and the growing fixation that followed, but now soon it would all lay before me, the greatest treasures of men and gods once more in the hands of a king, once more in the hands of one who would use them to bring order to the madness of the world. It had taken years of searching, years of evaluating every possible candidate to determine the age and composition of their mystery, and no small amount of luck of searching to find the key to Gilgamesh’s treasury, but now it all would be made worth it. The lost wealth of Babylon would flow forth once more and this time there would be no mistakes, like a great pillar I would anchor this world. I would declare law upon the masses, I would create a pillar to connect the men and gods in the heavens above, and I would create an era of everlasting prosperity and harmony, a perfect new world born under the guidance of the heir of mankind’s greatest king.

“My Lord?” One of my attendants called to me, I had become lost in the moment, lost in the finality of seeing my ambition fulfilled. The gate lay open and they waited to cross the threshold and call in the rest of the company, to begin removing the treasure trove.

“Proceed.” I said and with them I stepped forward, ready to find walls lined with gold and trinkets of an era long past.


But where was it? I looked into the first chamber of the treasury a hall seeming to branch off and formed a labyrinthine maze, yet there were no walls lined with gold, there was wealth no doubt, enough to make most men drool, piles of gold and jewels, and such all about, but where were the swords? Where were the arms and armor? Where were the constructs once held and made by the gods, radiating with mystery so great it felt as though a great weight was upon thy chest from merely standing in the presence of one? I gazed upon the room and found nothing. Had I been tricked? Was this truly the treasury of Gilgamesh? If so then where were the treasures? Why was it so barren? Had the legends been a lie?

“My Lord, mayhaps there is more further in? I could send a search if it would please thee?” One of my attendants had called to me again, as if sensing my disbelief and confusion, perhaps having been so great that I had let it show on my face. I wished I could believe his words, yet a deep feeling ran through my core, a feeling that somehow I had been too late, that I had somehow missed something, that someone had been here before me, that what I sought for so long was simply gone, lost to some unknown perpetrator who had stowed away and taken it all. Hot fire blossomed in me at the thought, a rage, nay an indignity of having had what was rightfully mine, what I the 1st son of Nabopolassar had sought being denied by some nameless faceless shadow.


“My Lord, look!” One of my attendants called to me again, shouting to cover the distance he had walked in exploring the hall. Biting back an incensed reply to both his distraction and his termity to advance his search in this most crucial of operations without my explicit approval I marched over to him to see what he felt demanded my attention at this moment. His hand outstretched he gestured to a pile of wealth stretching over just under thrice my height at its zenith lie a sword, its hilt jutting upwards towards the heavens, its very presence exuding a pressure which belied its seemingly simple decoration. There could be no doubt, this indeed was a noble phantasm, perhaps even a divine construct if any luck yet remained in this venture.

“Well, what are you waiting for? Get it and bring it here, the sun will not set any slower!” The blade while a good find was just a start, I wasn’t certain if I would be more pleased with or without its presence. Although any Noble phantasms, especially one within the Treasury of Babylon surely indicated a great worth and power, its presence served more to annoy me. The presence of it indicated that the legends had not been lies, yet confirmed that for whatever reason whoever had come before me had simply elected to leave this relic of countless divine constructs and noble phantasms behind like a single bent gold piece being left in a pile of copper pieces. The thought of being left only that which the looters had elected not to take was one which filled myself with such indignation that I may have rather not found anything beyond mere riches at all.


“It won’t move my lord!” Yet again my attendants (of which I considered reassigning for their annoying habit of interrupting me at just the wrong times) pitched in their voices. I sighed internally the thought “Can these fools do nothing right?” crossed my mind, yet out of the sake of refinement did not leave my lips.

“Then get more men to move it.” I stated in a neutral calm, attempting to veil my growing irritation, with everyone and everything around me. I watched as yet more men skittered up the mound of wealth, attempting and failing to move the blade from its rest place. It almost could be called comical, if only I were in the mood for such an act.

“Never mind, I’ll do it myself” I shoved the servant who had climbed down the mound, presumably to speak with me aside in irritation. I climbed the mound with relative ease only losing footing once or twice on the coins which began to slide like sand on a dune before reaching the peak. The conglomeration of attendants had dispersed, either not wishing to get in my way or sensing my irritation with the current state of affairs.

With a slight heave, I pulled and for a moment I felt as though the sword would not budge, but then it did, giving way from the pile and before resting fully in my grasp. It was but a mere moment and yet, for that instant I felt different, looking upon the sword I still felt the annoyance and anger of the treasury’s emptiness, but now tempered by something else, a drive, a need, a desire. I climbed back down the mound once again and addressed my attendants.


“I am going to retire for the evening, continue to account for and move what is here.” I then left for the outpost we had set up in preparation for a lengthy task of emptying, accounting for, and moving the treasury. Yet as I sat, I felt wrong. My mind wandered back to the treasury to its empty state, to the anger and indignation, and to that hollow feeling, the nameless desire which filled me. When I awoke again I elected to read, perhaps the books held some clue I had missed, some hint as to where or who may have emptied the ancient treasury of Gilgamesh and where they may have taken it. My hands stopped on a page in an old book recording the ancient rulers of Mesopotamia, Sargon, Sargon the Great. The conqueror who proclaimed himself king of the universe, he who ruled all else known in the era. That struck a thought, conquest, perhaps if I knew not where Gilagmesh’s treasures had gone and I could not find where they had gone I could gather them yet. Perhaps to bring an age of new peace I would have to wage a war greater than ever known. Turning to look at the blade by my bedside which I had pondered over last night, searching for an answer I knew what must be done.

Within the hour I had returned to my attendants who had seemingly slept in the treasury while accounting and moving goods from it. I spoke without announcement or hesitation.

“Awaken. Return all that you have moved back into the treasury and pack all that we have. Send a convoy to my father and tell him of our success.” My attendants weary and confused tittered and questioned “But what of the treasures and what of our treasury? We must bring this back my lord to aid our kingdom and empire.” I shook my head, still, these fools did not understand, still, they were so blind. “My father has no need of them, tell him to move the capital and palace here” I replied. “But what shall we tell him, how should you explain this betrayal?!” They asked

“There is no betrayal, tell my father this. I have opened the door none other but he could open, as such I now crown myself the heir to Gilgamesh. As for the capital, we have no need of the old city or capital, for upon this place I shall build a new empire and with it, I shall rule over all the earth.”


The Gate of Babylon / Divine Gate

Okay, so this is a section that is going to get me a lot of hatemail that may be contentious and will try to explain the whole divine gate affair and the Gate of Babylon, and specifically why it is different here. First things first, I’m going to detail the explanation Nasu gives on who opened the Gate of Babylon or had access to it below.

Gilgamesh (2600 BCE) => Darius the 1st (550 BCE to 486 BCE) => Nitocris of Babylon / Assyria (? BCE *) => Darius the 3rd (380 to 330 BCE)

* Unclear several possibilities on the date of this

Now there’s the explanation, however, there are problems with this the first one of several is that we have no idea who Nitocris of Babylon is, or if that was even her real name. She comes from Herodous’ Histories which has been accused of being inaccurate since ancient times in several areas (which some aspects have been shown to actually have been factual, others like the accuracy of names are more dubious). Here is what we know about Nitocris of Assyria according to Herodotus she was according to him the wife of Nabonidus and mother of Belshazzar and in that case would likely be the queen from the story of Belshazzar’s feast. She is associated with circa 550 BCE according to Herodotus, however, given that Belshazzar’s feast is associated with the year 539 BCE, that would likely mean 550 BCE may not be accurate as she would have been 11 at the time and far too young to be his mother.

I would best estimate her as maybe being as old as from 570 to 572 BCE which assuming she had the kid at maybe 16 or 17 when Belshazzar was conceived with Nabonidus would place this in the time range of anywhere from 556 BCE (the same year as Belshazzar’s rise to power) to 553 (roughly 3 years after he first rose to power. Given that Belshazzar’s feast happened around the time that Babylon fell to Cyrus the Great in 539 and depictions of Belshazzar from paints seem to portray him as at least a mature youth (an older adolescent) or a fully grown young man I would guess on the earlier date as that would make him 16 or 17 at the time (although he may have been born slightly before Nabonidus became king which may make him a little older and his mother slightly older as well).


However, this encounters the problem that this theory is not accepted by modern scholars, the description of her as being involved in a lot of building doesn’t fit and there are some pieces of evidence that Herodotus may have wrongly identified earlier pieces of construction with her that other older figures did. Plus this isn’t helped that Herodotus is the only person who describes Nitocris of Assyria (who isn’t even called that the proper name is Nitocris of Babylon, which makes far more sense as Assyria would have been assimilated by the Neo-Babylonian Empire at this point).

There are several other possibilities for who Nitocris of Babylon may be Naq’ia who was from Assyria in 730-668 BCE, but even though she was an advisor to the throne and a great builder she wasn’t called queen (as she was merely an advisor) like Nitcoris of Assyria is referred to as by others like Nitocris (Egypt). There is Adad-happe (648- 544 BCE) who was the mother of Nabonidus which would make the reason that Nitocris of Babylon is associated with him more clear, but she was a priestess, not a queen (as her son was a usurper) and it isn’t known if she was involved or associated with great building projects. The most common theory today is that Nitocris may have been a nickname given to the wife of Nebuchadnezzar II (634-562 BCE) who was involved in great building projects, or possibly a daughter or unknown mistress giving a wide date range of possible dates for this. Now a mistress would likely be older than any of his daughters and that wouldn’t work out for Nasu’s theory for reason’s I'll explain in a sec and you may have realized already. So let’s say that Nebuchanezzar probably wasn’t having any more kids past 55 so that puts 579 BCE as the last year he could have kids probably, given a 9 month term that means the youngest of his daughters may have been both sometime in 578 BCE. Given a max lifespan of maybe 80 (a few years more than their old man) that means we can a possible lifespan dating (578 BCE to 498 BCE).


Now here’s why all these dates matter because all of them point to 1 broad conclusion that this timeline Nasu proposes doesn’t work (for several reasons actually).

Gilgamesh (2600 BCE) => Darius the 1st (550 BCE to 486 BCE) => Nitocris of Babylon / Assyria (? BCE *) => Darius the 3rd (380 to 330 BCE)

Nitocris would have to be at most around as old as Nebuchadnezzar and ideally even younger than him yet given our dates as you can see below we have a clear problem.

550 BCE - ? BCE Nitocris of Babylon (Herodotus)
572 BCE - ? BCE Nitocris of Babylon (Herodotus; adjusted)
730 BCE - 668 BCE Naq’ia of Assyria (Historical)
648 BCE - 544 BCE Adad-happe of Assyria (Historical)
634 BCE - 562 BCE Nebuchadnezzar II’s Queen or Mistress (probably historical; extrapolated based on his age)
578 BCE - 498 BCE Nebuchadnezzar II’s daughter (probably historical; extrapolated based on his age and with a best-case scenario of how young they may be)

550 BCE - 486 BCE Darius the 1st

None of these positions our “Nitocris of Assyria” to be in a feasible position to have opened the Gate of Babylon after Darius the 1st as most of them are either older than Darius the 1st or about as old as him, meaning without magecraft to elongate their lifespan they would pass away before he does (and some of these don’t even fulfill the aspects Herodotus’ describes if we are aking his word as fact). Plus if we take Semiramis the only other Assyrian queen who matches these descriptions and was rich that breaks the timeline even more as Semiramis is based on Shammuramut who is a historical queen from 811 to 808 BCE, long before Darius the 1st was even born


Well, that’s bad, and it actively gets worse for this theory, remember Herodotus’s book, the only source which describes Nitocris of Babylon / Assyria? Well, it describes her as having tricked Darius the 1st, in that she placed her tomb atop a gate so that nobody could enter it without passing through and that there was a message to lure in greedy kings. Now given the context of a gate, luring in greedy people and such that sounds a lot like the gate of Babylon, and given that she would likely have to either be actively ruling as queen and had it built that way (in which case why wouldn’t she have opened the gate if she had the key and knew where it was and if Darius the 1st had the key why would she have not lured him in, killed him in the tomb and taken the key before he ever opened the gate) or dead to have a tomb that dates the two as either having been from roughly the same time or indicates that by the time of Darius the 1st that Nitcoris of Assyria may have already been dead which would sink Nasu’s timeline instantly.


But you could argue magecraft was involved and that allowed Nitcoris of Assyria to live longer than Darius the 1st and make the timeline work (which I argue if you have to finagle a solution like that it means it’s probably broken, but let’s roll with this for now), so problem solved right? Well considering that the gate being opened at all after Gilgamesh’s death implies the plot point only he and Enkidu can open it (Ishtar used the spare key to shut the gate, but based on the fact she never just elected to use it against Gilgamesh suggests not even she can open it) has been retconned somehow, you would think that all problems are solved. Unfortunately, this is not the case as there is still 1 final timeline problem that sinks the whole timeline below, Noble Phantasms, specifically Noble Phantasms in the gate being used by other people in the Nasuverse.

Gilgamesh (2600 BCE) => Darius the 1st (550 BCE to 486 BCE) => Nitocris of Babylon / Assyria (? BCE *) => Darius the 3rd (380 to 330 BCE)

Based on this timeline we have to assume that all the noble phantasms in the world were scattered by Darius the 1st (and given a best-case scenario let’s say he somehow opened it when he was born in 550 BCE), this still doesn’t work out though the Norse end of the age of the gods happened in 1000 BCE and we know the Gate of Babylon has Gungnir, and likely Thor’s hammer in it both of which play a role in the Norse fall of the age of the gods, thus they needed to be out of the Gate of Babylon to be used and owned by gods before they could have gotten out of the Gate of Babylon from a timeline perspective. Perseus uses Harpe in his myth and an item based on the Cloth of concealment / Hades helm of invisibility another object both items in the Gate of Babylon, Durandal / Duradina is used by Hector in the Trojan was which we know has to be before Romulus founds Rome in around the 700s BCE, the True Nine lives is needed by Heracles, which would be before Darius the 1st was born what about the Indian Vimānas that date back to their age of the gods? Put bluntly 550 BCE is way too late and by that point, too many heroes would have needed things from the prototypes in the gate of Babylon when it wouldn’t open for centuries thus the entire idea that Darius the 1st empties the Gate of Babylon and spread its treasures around the world ignores that for any of the other noble phantasms or legends in fate to exist or have happened the item would have needed to already be scattered before they happened.



You can’t blame me for trying I looked at this 6 easy from Sunday and every time it barely worked out or given the NP must be spread around the world clause still failed and even with Semiramis and Nai’qa our oldest possible candidates from Nitocris of Babylon stuff from Indian or Greek mythology likely predates them and means the gate had to be opened before even they were born. But, this also runs into the catch that if these two were “Nitocris of Assyria” they would be too old to possibly open the divine gate after Darius the 1st did by any reasonable stroke of logic aside from magecraft to make them live for centuries. I couldn’t make it work out any way I tried so I discarded the explanation and made my own, one that would try to explain how stuff from the Gate of Babylon got scattered ideally in enough time to meet the reach the varying ages of the gods during their heyday, yet also kept as close to Nasu’s world as possible and this is that theory.

Gilgamesh (2600 BCE) => varying Kings and rulers, including Sargon the great (2600 BCE to 1150 BCE) => Nebuchadnezzar II (634 to 562 BCE) => Darius the 1st (550 BCE to 486 BCE) => Xerxes I and other Perian rulers => Darius the 3rd (380 to 330 BCE) => Fake Archer’s original master’s family (strange fake)

This is the timeline I’ve made and it hinges on a few facts, we know that Gilgamesh had and discarded a spare key to the Gate of Babylon, but what happened to it. I propose that it was actually kept by his servants and after his death, but with Uruk lacking a king other kings used it to open the gate and make use of it to fund expansion, wage war, and such. But many kings and rulers enamored by the legends of Gilgamesh’s wealth and the Uruk’s continued riches from its treasury sought and warred for the key, creating power struggles and scattering its contents as those who had the key armed their soldiers with items from the gate and used money and riches fro inside to fund their wars. Sargon the great eventually came across the key and his empire was pivotal in scattering a great deal of treasure from it across the world through trade and battle. However with the growing chaos in Mesopotamia, the shrinking reserves of the Gate of Babylon, Gilgamesh and his stories starting to fade from memory due to not having many reliable forms of record-keeping, it was starting to become partly forgotten (which may have been encouraged by the Mesopotamian gods to prevent men rising up against them with the instruments inside the Gate of Babylon), then the bronze age collapse happened and the key was lost and after those 5 decades ended nobody was in a mood to either waste time looking for it, and as time passed most forgot it even existed.

Enter Nebuchadnezzar II, having read about the texts and their historical accounts of Mesopotamia he heard of Gilgamesh’s legendary treasury and entry to it, thus he searched for and eventually found the key (but he had no idea that this was the spare key and the original key alongside Enkidu and Ea was taken with Gilgamesh to his grave) and found a treasury greatly diminished he then elects to expand the empire and use this partly as a pretense to gather the lost treasures of the Gate of Babylon from around the earth. With his death, the key was eventually taken into the hands of Cyrus the Great who conquered the Neo-Babylonian empire, but he had it hidden as he didn’t want to use its power as he felt that it would only ever create a world of inequality with an absolute king at its peak rather than a truly equal world he desired. Darius the 1st was the next person to open the Gate of Babylon and use its riches, which he did after finding the hidden spare key and then emptied the gate to fund his empire. Xerxes and later Persian rulers then unknowingly made use of the treasures of Babylon scattering them even more than Darius the 1st did to fund military campaigns, turn gold into coins, and such. Finally Darius the 3rd found the key, since he felt his empire could use some riches he opened the gate (but never realized that Darius the 1st both opened and emptied it years earlier) and found it empty. He then tossed then closed the vault and tossed the key thinking it mere junk. In some worlds, this key would be found and retrieved by the magus family from strange fake however they had no way to sue it as they lacked the divine wisdom (a connection with divinity and Mesopotamian gods) to use it, and wither way it would have been empty by now.


Development Information

Okay so this originally came out of the fact that I actually listening to Lugia’s theme from Pokemon 2000: The Power of One (while also internally monologuing the entire prophecy out of memory [I have watched this movie a lot]) before it struck me that the villain in this movie Lawrence the 3rd (aka Geraldan) and his floating machine (actually called Hikōkyū or Flying palace) was a little similar to the Hanging Garden of Babylon and Gilgamesh (the guy describes himself as a collector, it’s like a museum in there with rare artifacts, the place is described to be about the size of a city and is shown to be huge in the movie) and So I elected to do a sheet on him, but as I felt that Gilgamesh was already done and Semiramis wouldn’t work I decided to use Nebuchadnezzar II as the basis for his sheet.

I then expanded the idea for Nebuchadnezzar to see himself as Gilgamesh’s rightful successor and want to regather all of the treasures of the earth (through creating an empire) although this later morphed into a desire for Gilgamesh’s treasures in order to use them to force the world under his leadership and rule and create an everlasting kingdom, which then grew into the current idea of him as thinking himself the superior successor who would create a kingdom which would rule over all creation. While the guy is powerful and a cunning leader he isn’t much of a fighter per se (he is okay with a sword, but not great) and is more of a collector and a general than anything else kinda like Iskander (although he can be beaten at times). Also while deceptive with his personality in seeming more forgiving than Gilgamesh towards those of great talent, this is merely an illusion, he only really cares about them because he sees people of great skill as treasures in their own right and wants to bring them under his thumb. If pressured he will kill you without hesitation as and he has a fiery temper to that which slights him.


I originally added a bit connecting him to the Whore of Babylon (or at least one possible version of it as there are several interpretations) by postulating that given the devastation that he wrought in Jerusalem caused him to be so hated and Babylon became so synonymous with the accumulation of greed and sin that his wife (often called a whore) became a candidate of being the Whore of Babylon (which would be explained as a title which can manifest in varying beings or forms [including the city of Jerusalem itself and the entirety of the church [symbolic of all organized religion], Romulus [as the founder of Rome], and other examples] as it is technically a title and not a specific being or person) which would affect part of his servant manifestation. Despite still thinking the idea is a good one (you might be able to expect to see a later servant use this) I was advised it may not be needed for Nebuchadnezzar II.

As a result, I stipped it out, but I did give Merodach as a symbol of his kingship and authority (I have no clue if this conflicts with the dates of thing like Sigurd and when he did or did not wield gram [if we even have confirmation on a date or range of dates for his myth, I’m tempted to say no since I think Seigfried’s legend dates it and Sigurd’s legends as having come into existence in the 5 or 6th centuries CE [although heads or tales if that is talking about their actual stories or the legends associated with their lives]], but I think it works out relatively well and even if it doesn’t I suppose it’s a little late to change it now) as the self-proclaimed heir of Gilgamesh and king of all the earth (or just King of the earth for short) and thought it would be neat to toy with the play on the idea of the story of the original swords of selection and how the myths started out. As I noted I leave it up to the interpretation of what the swords of selection use to determine the criteria of the “ideal” king to use them and think that it should partly show that even in their view they may not agree on what makes an ideal king.


The main reason that the Hanging Gardens is so different is that it is the real thing and it was designed with a very different intent and mentality than Semiramis (which was based on Gilagmesh’ diagrams, but Nebuchadnezzar II made changes and such to the design and was a separate entity from the garden he made for his wife [he did, however, name them the same, as it would hide the construction of the actual Hanging Gardens while it was being made in secret and would also give him as in his eyes it is a hanging garden; a garden of Eden from atop which he overlook his empire]).

As I noted in the whole post before I overhauled the idea of who opened the Gate of Babylon as the order Nasu gives on who opened the divine gate literally barely worked chronologically and made no sense at all so I just said “forget that let’s just try and make some of the details work out” and then redid it so it actually makes a lick of sense on both how Gilgamesh's treasures got scattered before Darius the 1st’s time, who opened the gate when, and why it was empty when Darius the 3rd opened it by his time. I tried to keep as much lore consistent while ignoring or retconning the parts that didn’t make sense so things lined up well (which really just amounted to taking the plot point of the spare key inserting it into the lore, saying it was opened after Gilagmesh’s death but then the key got lost in the bronze age collapse and that Nebuchadnezzar II reopened the gate for the 1st time after the bronze age, then followed by Darius the 1st (who emptied it), then followed by Darius the 3rd who found it empty and discarded the key only for magi to find the spare key but have no clue how to use it and keep it.

Designing the gate of Ishtar I partly made it based on the idea of throwing money at a problem, based on the idea of molten gold soldiers and creatures like Caster of Black’s golems. Nebuchadnezzar II thinks himself the superior successor to Gilgamesh, he as such chose to ally with rather than become an enemy of Ishtar. I do treat the book of Daniel as utterly fictitious (including daniel himself) in this as there is no proof anything in that happened and most people think it was written later than it records the era of, but emphasize the effects it has had on him as a servant (giving him a noble phantasm which is activated would actually unfailing destroy Solomon’s temple as that is a thing he did in myth and history, but also giving him a limited use weakness, which gets less effective with each use). Also unlike Gil’s gate of Babylon his is far less extensive has a bunch less really powerful stuff in it, and he can’t shoot stuff at people like Gil can he mostly has to rely on actually trying most of the time (however in return he does know how, at least on a basic level, to use more of the stuff he has than Gilgamesh can).

The personality is what came last, and I had to redo that section to get something I liked. As you can see he firmly thinks of himself as the superior successor to Gilgamesh, an agent who would work as the agent of the gods (rather than act against them) on the earth to create an empire spanning the earth which would last for all eternity. The guy could definitely be called arrogant, yet there are a few who he could consider possibly rivaling himself (yet those would only be the very strongest of servants), and even then due to believing that he will surpass Gilgamesh and create a kingdom and empire even greater than him (and his outlook of seeing strong and skilled people as treasures to collect as well). I imagine there would be a sort of alliance with Ishtar to that end and could imagine possibly a plotline based around the tower of Babel in a lostbelt setting with him as its king. I also had to get rid of the original face claim since I didn't feel it fit as I developed the character and give a new one. Also, I have no idea how good/bad the writing in the earlier lorebuilding section was, so I’ll just apologize in advance if it was bad.

Updated March 29th, 2021 at 11:13 AM by Cursed by Fortuna

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