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Rider Cyrus The Great Additional Information

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Lore and such

So originally the lore was actually much longer and way more in depth, after some feedback and consideration I greatly summerizied it into the current abridged version.

Eagle eyed viewers or those with a good memory may recall that I claimed Cyrus the Great didnít use the key to the treasury of Babylon because he wanted a world of equality not existing under the rule of one tyrannical all powerful ruler.However as you may see the key isnít even mentioned here nor does Cyrus the Great use it, I will outright admit this version of the character doesnít fully align with who he is in Nebuchadnezzar IIís servant profile, as while I did have some ideas for Cyrus the Great as a Rider class figure back then, they werenít fully developed, and as you can see evolved beyond what they were at that time, thus why he seems to have a different motivation than I said he did before. As for why the key isnít mentioned, I just didnít feel like mentioning it, as the key wasnít relevant in the already long lore (and would merely distract from the more relevant plot thread of Cyrus the Great taking up the role of a conqueror for the sake of his ambition and dream).


As for why this version didnít use the key when he got it, well you can chalk that up to two possible reasons that either

He didnít know what it was or why it mattered

He already felt he had enough riches and power as is and didnít want to tempt himself with the contents of the treasury of babylon which could possibly lead him to becoming a corrupted by the allure of their power (thus becoming like Astyages);

Regardless of his reasoning it never saw use during his lifetime and never really played a major role in it.


Character abilities, personality, and the faceclaim

So when I first started conceiving this I was able to come up with the concept of Radiance of Heaven (a skill on messiahs would or could have) early on and use it to integrate the idea of EX rank riding plus charisma in a unique spin, this was partly due to me working off of the description of Cyrus the Great as being one of a few people given the title savior or anointed one.

Originally I actually had a variant of the Tactics skill as the 2nd skill, but then I decided to change it after feedback to something slightly different in both how it works, but also still serving the general purpose of basically denoting his abilities as a ruler, someone who is very capable and skilled at ruling, in all aspects, aside from just battle, so I came up with the idea of Imperial Management, which also worked well paired with Revelation. Revelation was a clear go to, given his role in myth and such and that was easy enough to give to him. As for the personality that was something I solely developed over time based on my perceptions of his motivations and the perception of him by people of his time, Jewish people, and the world as a whole after his life.


The faceclaim stumped me for the longest time as I didnít just want to do a normal image for him, I wanted something unique, but I wasnít sure what. However after playing Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia I knew I had the perfect faceclaim. I feel this image both kinda portrays a sense of power, yet also age, wisdom, and regality. As another bonus I had the perfect theme music to hype both him being the next sheet (Lord of a Dead Empire), and a theme to hype his sheet itself, I was torn between Twilight of the Gods and God Shattering Star, but chose the former last minute due to him ruling around the time of the end of the age of the gods (at least around the 700 BCE date we are given in singularity 7*) and the song fitting a bit better in my mind.

* I had to meddle the date a little to coincide with the Cyrusí reign and the development of the ideas of Human rights, which began during and after his reign in several different regions around the same time as a result I contribute this to him as itís a heck of a coincidence if it wasnít because of him. However, I felt it was too perfect an explanation as to why the Age of the Gods took another sudden downswing and ended for some areas to resist. Plus the idea of explaining why Humanity began to grow separate from Gaia and how Alaya first started to form was just an interesting idea to me.


The Noble Phantasms and ideas I left on the cutting room floor

The Noble Phantasms for this sheet were fun to write, the Shabaz originally actually had the ability to serve as a non-humanoid Bunrei for Yahweh (or summon him into was an idea I toyed with) as Grand Rider and possibly even ride (alongside references to him benign able do stuff on the scale of the 10 plagues and thus protect and/or destroy a country). But, after some feedback I decided to change it, while I still went for the theme of light, the sun, and such I also considered leaning into the bird, angle, messenger of the heavens angle more, but decided to go with the idea of it being hollow and a representation of Riderís dreams and the ideal he strove to emulate rather than a real mount.

The Athanaton Ten Thousand was initially a question mark as to how to make it different enough from Darius the 3rdís version to stand on its own. Then I came up with the idea of Darius the 3rd misunderstanding the Athanaton Ten Thousand as being literally immortal than figuratively so. I combined this with the idea of Cyrusí charisma, him being beloved by his people, and the creation of both a postal service and satraps so that it is a force of 10000 men that functionally has infinite reserves, while also being multi purpose and not needing a reality marble to manifest within. Basically it isnít just an army summon, itís the army summon to end all army summons. If Cyrus werenít too kind hearted to do so (as he still considers his troops people and cares about them) he could probably zerg rush most of his enemies to death as a servant


Then thereís the Cyrus cylinder seal, as I noted some historians debate the whole ď1st human rights proclamationĒ, but as I established before I do believe that Cyrus the Great was responsible for the genesis of ideas like human rights, whether this had anything to do with it or not doesnít matter really. Just because more people believe this does have something to do with Human rights it has manifested powers related to such as a result of that connection. The powers are very much a situation sword, but against someone like Aphrodite, basically he could render her helpless with this attack (early versions of this had it able to seal 1 ability to NP no matter what, but I dropped the idea for a powerful but situational weapon).

The Lore was originally far far more expansive and such, with me going into a bunch of detail about Rider, but after feedback I trimmed it down to what it is now, personally in retrospect the first read more like a book report than an actual servant sheet so I think this new version fits better. In general I rewrote a lot of stuff to be more concise and clear while also changing the way a lot of stuff worked.


Cyrus and Genghis Khan

The main connection between Genghis Khan and Cyrus is that Genghis Khan aka TemŁjin was the closest person to actually being the successor Cyrus desired. In life Genghis Khan did also use the whole freedom of religion idea Cyrus pioneered, and both were powerful and very famous rulers of their ages, both qualify as Grand Rider, ruling great swaths of land and unifying many peoples, and in my iteration wanted to save the world from suffering. The main difference and reason they oppose each other comes down to a difference in philosophy of why suffering exists, which manifested in radically different methods to save the world and actions that were basically the polar opposite of one another at an in depth perspective. Cyrus despite Astyagesí machinations never truly grew up knowing suffering and hardship like Genghis Khan did, he lived in a relatively stable government and was never want for food, water, and the basic essentials of life. As such he developed the belief suffering was due to corrupt or misguided governments, incapable states, and failed leaders seeing it and war as a byproduct of these broken systems. Thus he sought to unify the world under his rule (or someone like him) thus solving all these problems and saving mankind.

Genghis Khan however had a radically different and far harsher life than Cyrus, as such while he actually unearthed Cyrusí motives and sought to follow in his footsteps, his conclusion on why suffering existed and thus how to solve it radically differed. In Genghis Khanís mind humans are inherently evil, holding dark base desires which cause suffering to exist and which are enabled by the presence of disparity and unconformities in others which humans use to justify satisfying these base desires and thus waging war, acting selfish, and inflicting suffering upon others. To Genghis Khan he came up with 3 ways to end human suffering.


1) Remove all sources and traces of disparity and unconformity among humans, thus giving people no justifiable reason to satisfy these base urges. This would require him to conquer the world and commit literal and/or cultural gencodie upon humanity until only one culture and one people remained.

2) Conquer the world and rule with an iron fist. Just as a bird does not annoy a lion, so too do the weak not challenge the strong. Thus by conquering the world, becoming the strongest and ruling over all others, those desires could be held in check through a harsh, oppressive, all encompassing system of law to keep these darker base desires under lock and key.

3) Become a tyrant and a monster. People use disparity as a tool to justify their dark base urges and blind themselves to how wicked satisfying those urges are, by showing just how ugle those darker base desires are, nobody could blind themselves to the truth or want to satisfy those urges. Moreover, by forcing the whole world to suffer under his reign it would create solidarity through that shared experience, that commonality of suffering. As such with this death anyone left to replace him either would know or would have been born to someone who suffered under his rule, thus leaving them unwilling to use his methods or sink to his level while also unifying the world under that shared experience of pain and suffering, rather than their divided experiences of life and culture.


However, regardless of which of the 3 methods Genghis Khan would have used in trying to end human suffering inherently, none of these 3 methods are ones Cyrus would approve of and all of them leave Genghis Khan a figure that Cyrus morally feels he must oppose and stand in the way of. As such despite both respecting the other, and both either wanting the other as their successor or wanting to be the otherís successor, neither can agree with the otherís methods or philosophy and thus they can only exist as enemies. Two men so very similar, both deeply respecting the other, yet due to one difference in their philosophy, ending up as complete opposites.



Updated July 27th, 2021 at 07:59 AM by Cursed by Fortuna

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