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The Attic

Decided to go through with learning Japanese.

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I have been waiting to find useful vocabulary resources before diving in headfirst. But it's become clear that I'm just procrastinating.

I think learning the grammar should give me enough of a foothold for my chosen method of learning that I can just look up everything else.

The plan is to finish with katakana, basic grammar, and radicals. Then proceed with brute-force reading until I remember the rest. This should make it a little bit less boring than just grinding anki every day, and is closer to how babies learn anyway. Any thoughts?

PS: Are multi-kanji words just compounds? Or is it part of japan's weirdo implementation of chinese characters?


  1. Cypher Attic's Avatar
    Also, one of the mods directed me to a pretty old thread on learning Japanese. Do people here care about necroing threads?
  2. Comun's Avatar
    Necro is encouraged, even.
  3. Cypher Attic's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun
    Necro is encouraged, even.
  4. Petrikow's Avatar
    Anki might be boring but it gets results.

    Thinking you'll learn 'like a baby would' is misguided. You are no longer a baby sir. You'll have to learn as an adult does, the hard way.

    The majority of the Japanese lexicon are Chinese loanwords, which often come in the shape of 2-kanji compounds. Thinking of them as compounds can be tricky at times however. Some kanji have no purpose outside a compound, others do.
  5. Temflakes403's Avatar
    Anki gets the most results by far. It's a bitch to keep it as a habit, but it's the most surefire way to build vocabulary. Bruteforcing will be *WAY* less eficient, and you probably won't remember like 90% of what you read, it works well when you actually use it to remember the words that were in anki, and it will be *SLOW*.
  6. fumei's Avatar
    Doing anki for kanji and vocab, and after a while immersing yourself in simpler media, while also reading grammar on the side is probably the most efficient way I can think of, honestly. Anki is boring, yes, but it's the most efficient way to get that foundation down. Once you start learning more grammar and reading stuff, the main point of grammar studying shouldn't be like what you did back in school or anything, it should preferably expose you to the grammar rules so that your mind has something to work with when reading, and you can then later go back and polish grammar as well.

    I'd say this is most efficient mostly because 1) immersion learning is way better for retention and learning than just hammering words into your head. You'll have a way easier time picking up, remembering, and recalling words when you see them in context, and you'll quickly find how words are used etc., and 2) it's just so much more fun. Studying Anki with a textbook on the side is BORING as all hell. Even if you have to start off by reading some children's book or something, there's still a huge dopamine rush from being able to read even a passage and understanding kinda what they're talking about, and then eventually you'll be able to move on to stuff that's actually fun to read as well.

    But, most importantly, all that has to come after an actual foundation has been laid, and the best way to do that is just to study with anki for some time initially.