Tohsaka and Edelfelt: The Eternal Rivalry
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, June 3rd, 2015 at 11:35 AM (18440 Views)
This topic came up in the Questions thread, so I figured I'd put forward my view on it. I'm sure this is already something commonly known/considered around here, so if you're already familiar with the relationship between the Tohsaka and Edelfelt families, feel free to skip over this. If not, here goes nothing.
Right, starting off, people following current Type-Moon works are likely familiar with Rin Tohsaka and Luvia Edelfelt and their perpetual rivalry that involves a lot more pro-wrestling and physical bouts than one would probably expect of a Magus Fight.
But, the Tohsaka history with this family goes farther back, and is likely a lot closer than some Prisma fans would know at any rate.
During the Third Fuyuki Holy Grail War, one of the competitors were the Edelfelt family. In particular, two sisters whose Sorcery Trait, called Ores Scales according to the translation I have, allowed the two to share the Edelfelt magic crest, and also meant that when they summoned the Sabre of that war, they actually got two servants, each being a separate aspect of the hero they had intended to summon.
Now they apparently worked together for a time before splitting into two camps for whatever reason. Despite what we're told about the Sabre class' ability to consistantly make the finals of each war, it seems that the Edelfelt were eliminated quite early, so it's possible that one of them lost their servant to someone else or a similar outcome.
Anyway, this is where my data (As opposed to what I know to be the general knowledge of this pair) gets kinda hazy.
One Source says one went missing and the other died, or that one went missing and the other returned home with a grudge against the Japanese. I'm not sure what's correct here. Either way, the consistant part is that one went missing, and regardless of the other's fate, the Edelfelt line continued all the same with Luvia eventually becoming their heir.
As for the one that went missing. Basically there's two possiblities, both involve running across the Tohsaka. Either she was taken out and parts of her Magic Crest were somehow harvested by the Tohsaka (I've no idea how one would do that given the genetic coding required to be compatible with a Magic Crest.) The other, much more likely outcome, is that said sister married into the Tohsaka, her descendants then being able to adopt a singular crest from both the Tohsaka and Edelfelt.
The evidence for this is quite compelling all things considered.
First and foremost, Rin herself makes use of Gandr, a Scandinavian curse, which if not sharing heritage with the Finnish Edelfelt, a Japanese Magus would really have no logical reason to use, her other spellls and magecraft being inherited from her ancestor's teacher, Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg. Not only that, Rin's Gandr is notably potent, and the Edelfelt are considered some of the most prominant users of this move.
The second piece of evidence is that Rin's father, Tokiomi, is noted to have had a foreign mother. Tokiomi, who himself appears to be in his 30s at least at the start of the Fourth War, it's entirely possible that his mother was the missing Edelfelt sister from the Third War 60 years before.
Finally, while decidedly not as concrete as the other evidence, in Avenger's Time Loop, the ones playing the roles of the Edelfelt sisters are in fact Rin and Sakura. Giiven that other factors were recreated rather haphazardly (The Third War's Assassin and its master being duplicated without incident) this could simply be allocating the role to the only sisters to participate in the Fifth War, but it's also possible that their heritage played a part in giving them these personas.
Anyway, like I said before, this isn't anything new or ground breaking, but since people were asking, figured I'd put it out there for people to look over.